It was a reaction to the capitalist oligarchs....of course, capitalists and commies won that war...so consumerism, materialism won

traditionalism lost

You have to look at development of drug abuse, alcohol abuse, ... This is not a bad indicator.

You're putting tradition above freedom of choice @Deleted User

... among others.

So some say that "Nazis lost a war not an academic debate"

No, freedom of choice is a slogan, its not unbounded by laws and morals anywhere

It's just as dangerous as stating people's value before showing their worth or merit.

Youre sloganeering

"muh freedom"

You're gaslighting

They are not invited to debates, because the guys who tried it, failed miserably with bad outcome (to put it mildly).

You can't hold a serious argument

And you’re in lalaland

No, its a matter of degree

@Deleted User So am I right in believing your brand of fascism would never do away with money, or seize great amounts of taxes or appropriate people's property for government programs?

you're arguing from an extreme

NO one is saying end markets

or end ability to choose products

or whatever you burgers call freedom

"ford or chevy"

You're assuming your opposing view before that view explains itself. You're pretty bad at debating.

but, its something else

Setting yourself up for failure.

Right... you see, when someone says to me that they're perfectly in favor of free markets and low interference of government in private business, then to me that's saying that you're a radical capitalist. It seems to be a semantic issue.

Again, the forces of fascism exist in American society, they just need to be elaborated

no, not "free" markets

Directed markets

but still markets

not abolition of property

regulated markets

Oh. So the state will be in charge of what people do with their property and money, and will, at their discretion, change how you behave with it?

regulated with an eye to protecting tradition in a world that leftist are trying to subvert it

@Deleted User cares more about winning a conversation that having an equal footing with other people.

Not just to a minor degree, but as a matter of central planning?

Like they are now

Well, we have central planning, what fascism would introduce is a moral standard to prevent degeneracy and promote traditionalism

lol we dont have central planning?

You guys are living in la la land

Boy I'm confused.

Yes, the social aspect would be the most "oppressive" compared to now