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that's also just the jews

it's not like this was a culling of the jews as much as it was a culling of political opponents, jews, gays, transgenders, commies, gypsies, Sinti, Roma

@Rickety Cricket A vast majority of Jews in concentration camps were worked to death or were starved. The gassings started happening later in the war.

Slavs if Hitler would have gotten far enough <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

what crusader said

the death camps are much younger than the labour camps

The death camps were originally also labor camps

^^

but hitler wanted to step on the gas

And even when they started killing undesirables they shot them first

literally

nah

that late in the war they had munition shortages

There were Jews, Romanis, Serbs, Poles, disabled people, and criminals in the camps

hence why they often shot them early on in labour camps

Based on what evicdence @A Random Crusader ?

but almost completely refrained from doing so in the death camps

@INNØS have you actually listened to that speech you posted

that sounds nothing like himmler

I think we found a true skeptic queen! I bow!

well i'm not the only one

a fair few historians disagree as well as do many people around the world

@Rickety Cricket So you don't even speak German yet you know how Himmler sounds like? lmao

>implying you need to speak someones language to recognize their voice lmao

listen to some of Himmler's speeches and you'll see

it depends on the audio equipment, which was quite shit back then

hitler could travel from one location to another and sound very different

and hitler had a very memorable voice

imagine the same with less memorable voices

not as bad as this

how can it even be verified if that's the case there's no video lol

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if there's no video it'S difficult. Those videos are not often released and I wished the German government would be less clingy with their visual sources <:GWcfcThonk:357907199928041473>

they allow historians etc. to use them and non-profits

uhh pretty sure that was handed over when Germany was helpless

there's not a visual source for the speech or not one that the German government is holding

nice debate tbh i got to go

a lot of speeches were recorded

have fun I suppose <:GWnanamiWhenLifeGetsAtYou:398860996535386126>

wow literally not even 5 minutes after I went to sleep