Message from @Farseer Selna Vesha

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2018-06-13 14:33:28 UTC  

the impression I have of mao is that he was just a marxist, but applied stuff according to the individual issues within china

2018-06-13 14:33:34 UTC  

and added more tyranny

2018-06-13 14:33:40 UTC  

is this even remotely correct?

2018-06-13 14:34:15 UTC  

Generally speaking Marxism Leninism is viewed as a very serious deviation from Marxism for several reasons

2018-06-13 14:34:19 UTC  

Today I learned there's a deep divide between pro-catgirl commies and anti-catgirl commies.

2018-06-13 14:34:29 UTC  

Maoism essentially continued these

2018-06-13 14:34:57 UTC  

It's why "that's not socialism" is something you will hear from us commonly

2018-06-13 14:35:20 UTC  

Because that person is arguing from a praxis/theory standpoint

2018-06-13 14:35:32 UTC  

For a comparison

2018-06-13 14:35:47 UTC  

are you suggesting maoism is derivated from a marxist base but is by definition not marxism

2018-06-13 14:36:12 UTC  

or is not by definition socialism

2018-06-13 14:36:15 UTC  

either way

2018-06-13 14:36:24 UTC  

It's like a liberal society that has severely abridged private property rights and no freedom of speech level of praxis violation

2018-06-13 14:36:39 UTC  

what's a praxis violation?

2018-06-13 14:37:07 UTC  

Praxis is the "how do we do it or accomplish it" of an ideology

2018-06-13 14:37:18 UTC  

It's often central to an ideology

2018-06-13 14:37:30 UTC  

as a matter of fact that does sound quite fine

2018-06-13 14:37:35 UTC  

ideologically

2018-06-13 14:38:06 UTC  

the issues I had with the very word mao are pretty much related to the actual policies that were enforced an enacted in china during that era

2018-06-13 14:38:17 UTC  

including certain limits on freedom of speech

2018-06-13 14:38:39 UTC  

Liberal praxis would be constitutional rights

2018-06-13 14:38:47 UTC  

Back

2018-06-13 14:38:47 UTC  

Or common liberal praxis

2018-06-13 14:39:13 UTC  

I.e to uphold natural, positive and negative human rights

2018-06-13 14:39:20 UTC  

Which are key to liberal philosophy

2018-06-13 14:39:52 UTC  

:thonking:

2018-06-13 14:40:21 UTC  

I'm an ex libertarian by the way

2018-06-13 14:40:36 UTC  

I used to religiously back constitutional praxis

2018-06-13 14:40:45 UTC  

Still do like it

2018-06-13 14:40:47 UTC  

Actually

2018-06-13 14:40:53 UTC  

It stands the test of time

2018-06-13 14:42:39 UTC  

*gets jelly over American gun Rights*

2018-06-13 14:44:05 UTC  

I'd describe myself as a center-left egalitarian individualist

2018-06-13 14:44:19 UTC  

there are two sections in this statement

2018-06-13 14:46:33 UTC  

center-left:
I think the cetrain values that socialism et al promote at least on an ideological level are _good_ (as in "ethical"), but I do also value freedom greatly. thus social democracy / a heavily regulated free market is the ideal compromise between these two values (in addition to what can reasonably implemented in practice, and what can not)

2018-06-13 14:47:19 UTC  

egalitarian individualist:
certain theological and philosophical though processes have simply led me to the conclusion that this is the natural state of all existence, and the way we should perceive the uninverse

2018-06-13 14:47:52 UTC  

to me this is more than a mere belief (even though I am technically an agnostic theist)

2018-06-13 14:48:29 UTC  

(and I don't support any one chosen religion or even the existence of organized religion in general)

2018-06-13 14:50:19 UTC  

>social democracy

2018-06-13 14:50:23 UTC  

You 2 look like people about to make sex

2018-06-13 14:50:31 UTC  

Well you have proven to be more politically literate then most