Message from @Farseer Selna Vesha

Discord ID: 456467105978515456


2018-06-13 14:32:49 UTC  

Or, Maoism for short

2018-06-13 14:32:53 UTC  

"This is the biggest fracture in our community."

2018-06-13 14:32:54 UTC  

Is his belief

2018-06-13 14:33:02 UTC  

how is that different from general marxism?

2018-06-13 14:33:21 UTC  

Maoism is a continuation of Marxism Leninism

2018-06-13 14:33:28 UTC  

the impression I have of mao is that he was just a marxist, but applied stuff according to the individual issues within china

2018-06-13 14:33:34 UTC  

and added more tyranny

2018-06-13 14:33:40 UTC  

is this even remotely correct?

2018-06-13 14:34:15 UTC  

Generally speaking Marxism Leninism is viewed as a very serious deviation from Marxism for several reasons

2018-06-13 14:34:19 UTC  

Today I learned there's a deep divide between pro-catgirl commies and anti-catgirl commies.

2018-06-13 14:34:29 UTC  

Maoism essentially continued these

2018-06-13 14:34:57 UTC  

It's why "that's not socialism" is something you will hear from us commonly

2018-06-13 14:35:20 UTC  

Because that person is arguing from a praxis/theory standpoint

2018-06-13 14:35:32 UTC  

For a comparison

2018-06-13 14:35:47 UTC  

are you suggesting maoism is derivated from a marxist base but is by definition not marxism

2018-06-13 14:36:12 UTC  

or is not by definition socialism

2018-06-13 14:36:15 UTC  

either way

2018-06-13 14:36:24 UTC  

It's like a liberal society that has severely abridged private property rights and no freedom of speech level of praxis violation

2018-06-13 14:36:39 UTC  

what's a praxis violation?

2018-06-13 14:37:07 UTC  

Praxis is the "how do we do it or accomplish it" of an ideology

2018-06-13 14:37:18 UTC  

It's often central to an ideology

2018-06-13 14:37:30 UTC  

as a matter of fact that does sound quite fine

2018-06-13 14:37:35 UTC  

ideologically

2018-06-13 14:38:06 UTC  

the issues I had with the very word mao are pretty much related to the actual policies that were enforced an enacted in china during that era

2018-06-13 14:38:17 UTC  

including certain limits on freedom of speech

2018-06-13 14:38:39 UTC  

Liberal praxis would be constitutional rights

2018-06-13 14:38:47 UTC  

Back

2018-06-13 14:38:47 UTC  

Or common liberal praxis

2018-06-13 14:39:13 UTC  

I.e to uphold natural, positive and negative human rights

2018-06-13 14:39:20 UTC  

Which are key to liberal philosophy

2018-06-13 14:39:52 UTC  

:thonking:

2018-06-13 14:40:21 UTC  

I'm an ex libertarian by the way

2018-06-13 14:40:36 UTC  

I used to religiously back constitutional praxis

2018-06-13 14:40:45 UTC  

Still do like it

2018-06-13 14:40:47 UTC  

Actually

2018-06-13 14:40:53 UTC  

It stands the test of time

2018-06-13 14:42:39 UTC  

*gets jelly over American gun Rights*

2018-06-13 14:44:05 UTC  

I'd describe myself as a center-left egalitarian individualist

2018-06-13 14:44:19 UTC  

there are two sections in this statement

2018-06-13 14:46:33 UTC  

center-left:
I think the cetrain values that socialism et al promote at least on an ideological level are _good_ (as in "ethical"), but I do also value freedom greatly. thus social democracy / a heavily regulated free market is the ideal compromise between these two values (in addition to what can reasonably implemented in practice, and what can not)

2018-06-13 14:47:19 UTC  

egalitarian individualist:
certain theological and philosophical though processes have simply led me to the conclusion that this is the natural state of all existence, and the way we should perceive the uninverse