Message from @banestrum
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It's all morality with them; "It's immoral to be cruel to others, the moral thing to do... morality is a cornerstone of our society"
@M4Gunner I view it as a political statement, but I'd be willing to no immediately mock a church if I had an inkling it was purely religious
Absolutely
It's like relying on a calculator
Great crutch, totally functional, but when you leave it at home you're fucked
I think that certain religious ideas are based on real observations
Those are the best ones
and this stuff was written a long time ago, and they used the symbolism and old style language, so i think it's really important to study it hard if you are serious about it. people who saw a cartoon vhs of noahs ark, and nothing else, isnt a good representation of the essence of the teaching
The thing with religions. The only ones that survibe take from their prior types. So the *morality would die when you lose your religion* is a falsity
And since the western world laws are written based off this. Even the athiestic are forced to observe said morality
@Deleted User I'm totally fine with symbolism and shit, working the brain is good
Religion has always been about explaining the unexplained
also if they are based in true observations, those teachings would reemerge @Goblin_Slayer_Floki
I have no respect for generic american Protestantism, though. More of a lack of belief than actual belief
It gives humans a teather to keep from fearing everything
"We should all be nice to each other" is not an impressive or insightful revelation
it was at one point
we take it for granted now
true ^
@banestrum but before it the world was far more chaotic
eye for an eye used to be great too
@Goblin_Slayer_Floki And now we drown in our own human excess, what an improvement
Because most of the moralities have been abandoned
no
before it was eye for **YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY**
avoiding excess was one of those
The adherence to them is more slavish than ever but the understanding is minimal
@M4Gunner easy to be a glutton, to easy
It's like giving an autist a gun and a badge and telling him to enforce curfew
You KNOW he's going to shoot someone
I want the hard route
ain't that the truth
Give me the suffering
I guess it's hard to go through life believing nothing
I'm not religious or anything, but it seems like lying to yourself to just hope for the best and smile all the time
Also stupid
Thats why even those who abandon faith replace it with faith in something else
Yeah, but faith in nothing is fucking dumb
Or something so ephemeral that it might as well be swamp gas
Yes but blind faith in humans is also dumb