Look ill skipthe rant and say this

Crowder though... damn he is growing fast

indeed

I think civil discussion between two people with opposing beliefs can be productive so long as it seeks to optimize our system

@jigantie Of course, but that wasn't the discussion

yeah I got off topic there

"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion."
George Washington had the right idea though

Okay, fair enough. But the MODERN 'Left' is no longer a 'party', it's a catchall for those who do not wish to live in a civil society. They want to see it broken.

They are participating in 'bad faith'.

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This is about what (I think) are the limits

Anything inside that, you're participating in good faith

doin 8 values brb

you can't use a George Washington quote to ignore the fact that the Left is literally destroying this country with their dipshitery. I don't like republicans, but at least they don't want to destroy our way of life as we know it and install a fucking communist dystopia

What the worst that could happen? Abortion is made illegal again? So the sluts don't get to flush and forget anymore. Boo hoo.

George Washington was big gay who started gay war to get rich and participated in gay revolution to stay rich.

Good, worked out pretty well for us as well

DONT YOU SAY THAT

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@Banks=Gay

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I wanna go back in time and give George a big hug, he deserves it

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Real talk how do you guys think the founders react if they saw us today

i wanna go back in time just so i can be like, hey george osama is here and give bin ladens home adress

They'd start distributing firearms immediately

George would try and steal American soldiers pensions. Idk what the others would do

Hell, thy'd probably be all for the 3D printer/lathe thing for the AR frames lol

Shut it greyfag

they'd want the party system to crumble and have an entire nation of freedom-loving constitutionalists, NOT a bunch of useless Rhinos and disphit Communists

@Fitzydog still too much authoritarian left

TJ>makes first political party
Also TJ> doesnt want parties apparently

@Deleted User I gave some leeway for misguied people who are still acting in 'good faith' in a democracy. If they got into power however, we'd be fucked sure

On the political compass I was libertarian

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"neo-liberalism"

Jingoistic bastard!

west is best

neo liberalism meets that you are nationalist and a lover of free markets

8 values is different. Pretty hard to get beyond 60% libertarian @jigantie