Message from @Fitzydog
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@Silver Shield Obviously discord is not the place for me to lay out the entireity of Plato's Republic, so I guess i'll move on
you do you, my friend
Fair enough, I am interested to hear your point of view though
take advantage of others is in our very nature...
Acquaintance*
I dont take advantage of others
compared to Aristotle's more individualist beliefs
My evidence is my commission checks at at&t when i was a salesperson
@AiarUther Well, do you want to live in an Anarcho-capitalist society? Or do you want borders? Because borders define a 'collective' of *something* even if it's super inconsequential
Collectivism and Individualism aren't binary
Just because you are individualist doesn't mean you have to be an anarchist
@Deleted User It's time to clean the floors.
False dichotomy
Alert!
@Silver Shield His point was, that if you live in a nation, you're still in a 'collective' of sorts. There's a layer of society that is more important than yourself
And those are children and the gays
@Silver Shield I think you do, to be honest
@Fitzydog I think though that if there is any interraction, it has to be as volunatary as possible.
Think of the most minarchist America imaginable: It's still a 'collective' of Americans who value border security
It isnt rape if u consent
In regards to voluntary choices
The idea of individualism is that the emphasis is on the rights of the individual. It doesn't necessitate that you can't be part of a group, just that the group's importance is less than the individual's.
Consent prevents rape 100% of the time
Exactly
This guy gets it
@Silver Shield Of course not, but if you're not part of a group, then you're in a stateless society
just look at my avatar
so trustworthy
well there would still be organisations in a stateless society.
Looks like Willem Dafoe and Gordon Freeman had a baby
You know I wonder if delta city from robocop wouldn't have been a better outcome?
@AiarUther If I lived in unincorporated Alaska with no state, and provided everything for myself, then yes, I'm finally an 'individualist'
where i got it
Beyond 2 souls devs were pervs
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the division of labour is what makes civilisation great