It's funny...but what the fuck man

It's a cynical, everyone-is-terrible show now

And it's even better than before, but the shift was kinda jarring

maybe they got new writers around that time

Nah, it's the same writers

Martha Kaufman and the two other guys

And even the director is the same

Oh wait

Martha's mother died during season 9

Maybe that's why the show is getting so.much more depressing?

seasons 9 was right after 9/11, i wonder if that had something to do with it?

That seems too much of a stretch

i'm mostly joking

but you never know, maybe the writers were sad and it was unconsciously expressed through the show

It's possible

Almost self aware yet still so deluded

It's like everyone hates each other on the show

They're always cheating and backstabbing, keeping secrets from each other, ruining other's lives

Phoebe convinces this dude to leave his career and come to new York to propose to her

And then rejects him and says yes to another guy in the same scene

It's not even played off as funny, it's just sad

it's possible that the executives pushed it in that direction after some market research or something.

Probably

But why would they

They'd be alienating he current fanbase

wouldnt cum not be vegan?

executives are often wrong

@Deleted User It's time to clean the floors.

```However, Liane Bonin of Entertainment Weekly felt that the direction of the ninth season was a "disappointing buzzkill", criticizing it for the non-stop celebrity guest spots and going into jump the shark territory. ```
looks like you arent the only one who noticed it @Deleted User

I know I'm a liberalist at heart, but man, the alt-right seems to having so much fun.

When I hang out around the fringes, they boo me away xD.

can you elaborate on that?

Well, in the interest of getting information and seeing what other perspectives have to offer, I joined a couple of alt-right discords before.

I still don't quite get it.

No one there can agree on anything.

And everyone is completely emotionally entrenched on their position.

i've been on some alt-right servers, and although there are some decent people, most of them just screech at each other. it got old for me

Yeah, exactly.