Message from @Fredrickbismark
Discord ID: 472890327863132171
nothing's happening tho
idk, anyways.
Regarding the point made earlier about truth: Considering 'white lies' and 'half-truths' to not be lies seems to be a universal logical fallacy and 'sin' in the realm of conversation and the manifestation of ideas and opinions, independent of religious doctrines and the potential repercussions therein, perhaps it would be most socially constructive to advocate for the sovereignty of the truth in terms of the morality of negotiation and co-operation between people of conflicting viewpoints in the pursuit of reducing as much unjust suffering experienced by all people as possible, regardless of religious belief?
So thats where the 'new canon' comes in, because Democracy is in itself a development of the individualism of Christianity in Europe
The whole concept of 'King of Kings', that there's a higher order that even the most powerful are beholden to
Does that make sense or do I need to do more thinking regarding that point?
Well yeah. A caliphate based in sufism sounds kind aweird. Governing people with religion... Whilst you should take your own spiritual path?
Democracy is the only thing which sounds like it would work tbh
but hey. I don't know what the general view of a caliphate is by sufis.
Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions regarding my comment @ 11:09?
@codenamecam Not really, because the same people that practice 'taqiyya' wouldn't listen to anyone who disagrees with it.
I don't see the point in lying. Yeah I can understand when it's about how someone looks and shit.
But something as personal, as my devotion to God, why would I lie?
You can't teach someone to value truth
Why would anyone lie?
^^^ @Fitzydog
agreed fitzy
Fuck it, let's just make Bah'a'i the Official religion of every European nation.
oof
I think it would be funny if the middle east becomes secular democracies while at the same time europe goes islamic.
hey...hey... Call me weird here. But why not just believe in your religion, and still listen to some parts from the other holy books? They got some pretty good ideas sometimes.
@Fredrickbismark would be fucking hilarious
How's it going for the saudi prince?
Aint he secular?
@MountainMan lol that's Bah'a'i, isn't it?
I heard he let women drive n shizz
@Fitzydog Yeah. And I kinda agree. I don't follow the others religiously. But I do like to take some ideas. Like any other book.
Whilst the bah'a'is do this religiously.
And I can respect that. Pretty nice way of thinking.
@MountainMan because religions by nature have to attack competing religions to survive
Otherwise they die out
no
Oh great, the stoned child is back
Jazidis wouldnt agree
They havent waged war
Eventually only the most competitive (read: bloodthirsty) religions are left
And are still here
And live in ***Iraq***
Well of course, the conquring religion is always the dominant.
When we werent as civilized.