Message from @Fredrickbismark

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2018-07-28 22:08:00 UTC  

nothing's happening tho

2018-07-28 22:08:16 UTC  

idk, anyways.

2018-07-28 22:09:02 UTC  

Regarding the point made earlier about truth: Considering 'white lies' and 'half-truths' to not be lies seems to be a universal logical fallacy and 'sin' in the realm of conversation and the manifestation of ideas and opinions, independent of religious doctrines and the potential repercussions therein, perhaps it would be most socially constructive to advocate for the sovereignty of the truth in terms of the morality of negotiation and co-operation between people of conflicting viewpoints in the pursuit of reducing as much unjust suffering experienced by all people as possible, regardless of religious belief?

2018-07-28 22:09:04 UTC  

So thats where the 'new canon' comes in, because Democracy is in itself a development of the individualism of Christianity in Europe

2018-07-28 22:10:08 UTC  

The whole concept of 'King of Kings', that there's a higher order that even the most powerful are beholden to

2018-07-28 22:10:17 UTC  

Does that make sense or do I need to do more thinking regarding that point?

2018-07-28 22:10:44 UTC  

Well yeah. A caliphate based in sufism sounds kind aweird. Governing people with religion... Whilst you should take your own spiritual path?

2018-07-28 22:10:57 UTC  

Democracy is the only thing which sounds like it would work tbh

2018-07-28 22:11:15 UTC  

but hey. I don't know what the general view of a caliphate is by sufis.

2018-07-28 22:13:05 UTC  

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions regarding my comment @ 11:09?

2018-07-28 22:13:56 UTC  

@codenamecam Not really, because the same people that practice 'taqiyya' wouldn't listen to anyone who disagrees with it.

2018-07-28 22:14:32 UTC  

I don't see the point in lying. Yeah I can understand when it's about how someone looks and shit.

2018-07-28 22:14:46 UTC  

But something as personal, as my devotion to God, why would I lie?

2018-07-28 22:14:48 UTC  

You can't teach someone to value truth

2018-07-28 22:14:52 UTC  

Why would anyone lie?

2018-07-28 22:15:04 UTC  
2018-07-28 22:15:13 UTC  

agreed fitzy

2018-07-28 22:15:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/472889898492231700/1edea66.jpg

2018-07-28 22:15:52 UTC  

Fuck it, let's just make Bah'a'i the Official religion of every European nation.

2018-07-28 22:16:33 UTC  

oof

2018-07-28 22:17:20 UTC  

I think it would be funny if the middle east becomes secular democracies while at the same time europe goes islamic.

2018-07-28 22:17:20 UTC  

hey...hey... Call me weird here. But why not just believe in your religion, and still listen to some parts from the other holy books? They got some pretty good ideas sometimes.

2018-07-28 22:17:32 UTC  

@Fredrickbismark would be fucking hilarious

2018-07-28 22:17:46 UTC  

How's it going for the saudi prince?

2018-07-28 22:17:50 UTC  

Aint he secular?

2018-07-28 22:17:59 UTC  

@MountainMan lol that's Bah'a'i, isn't it?

2018-07-28 22:18:00 UTC  

I heard he let women drive n shizz

2018-07-28 22:18:25 UTC  

@Fitzydog Yeah. And I kinda agree. I don't follow the others religiously. But I do like to take some ideas. Like any other book.

2018-07-28 22:18:38 UTC  

Whilst the bah'a'is do this religiously.

2018-07-28 22:18:49 UTC  

And I can respect that. Pretty nice way of thinking.

2018-07-28 22:18:51 UTC  

@MountainMan because religions by nature have to attack competing religions to survive

2018-07-28 22:18:57 UTC  

Otherwise they die out

2018-07-28 22:19:06 UTC  

no

2018-07-28 22:19:06 UTC  

Oh great, the stoned child is back

2018-07-28 22:19:08 UTC  

Jazidis wouldnt agree

2018-07-28 22:19:24 UTC  

They havent waged war

2018-07-28 22:19:27 UTC  

Eventually only the most competitive (read: bloodthirsty) religions are left

2018-07-28 22:19:27 UTC  

And are still here

2018-07-28 22:19:36 UTC  

And live in ***Iraq***

2018-07-28 22:20:00 UTC  

Well of course, the conquring religion is always the dominant.

2018-07-28 22:20:11 UTC  

When we werent as civilized.