is a good idea

👌

because were not enemies

but we disagree enough

commies are the enemies

to have a substantial debate

get the NOOSE

Meh. i don’t know enough about economy to be good for an argument.

Might join just to listen later.

we both want personal liberty, we just disagree on pragmatics

that's a beautiful way of putting it

nice

who wouldnt want personal Liberty tho

commies

Decade this might be the closest you get. She has an annoying voice but is reasonable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DasCyWVZBYg

social justice is agy

thank you so much! i'll be listening to that on my bike ride later :D

part of my motivation for seeking this out is my paranoia of the echochamber

I know i'm not the smartest guy in the world, and when i find myself agreeing with an argument this much I can't help but wonder if i'm being subject to some clever debate tactic that i'm unaware of

@Durtle02 Warmist response to that graph is that it shows CC caused by Earth's orbital changes over thousands of years & is therefore irrelevant. Your move.

forever the cynic

Echochambers are gay

Thats Why I like speaking to people with opposite views

Current warming is not due to orbital changes

@MountainMan I am currently denied that luxury. I'm stuck in the middle of rural wales. I don't have a car yet and my nearest neighbour is miles away. I don't have much opportunity for discourse, and even if I did, a lot of the locals around here are stuck in the past anyway.

As someone said above, internet debate is hardly a substitute for talking to someone in person

Big oof

If I were to try and bring up the issue of feminists around here, the response would most likely be: "oooooh? They're still around are they? But they got the vote, didnt they? Ooo arrr"

@MuChaDo Its still natural tho?

If its the Earths orbital displacement causing CC

Its shows that even when C02 emissions were low the climate repeated a predictable pattern

The pattern is the advance/retreat of ice ages due to Milankovic cycles

AAAh

I see

very well done ferrow asian

If a large component of the current warming is natural, that makes it worse not better

Because anthropogenic CO2 is on top of that

I am a sceptic btw

You have to know both sides

very well done fewwo asian