Message from @Alexmikli

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2018-08-10 13:01:26 UTC  

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2018-08-10 13:20:44 UTC  

**Totally Human Thing#2674** was cleansed from the server.

2018-08-10 13:27:18 UTC  

You know I think Alex Jones got banned for libel against Mueller if anything

2018-08-10 13:27:31 UTC  

He did essentialyl call him a mass rapist with no evidence.

2018-08-10 13:28:24 UTC  

If that was why they did it, I'll side with Youtube, but they should have said that. Not the other sites though, they banned him for doing stuff off site which is dumb.

2018-08-10 13:29:48 UTC  

libel is a legal term, which needs to be proved in a court of law - if youtube wants to avoid the mantle of a public utility then banning people for 'libel' would be a terrible move

2018-08-10 13:30:29 UTC  

I agree

2018-08-10 13:30:34 UTC  

but libel is against their rules.

2018-08-10 13:30:50 UTC  

then they'd have to prove it

2018-08-10 13:30:56 UTC  

or more specifically, Mueller would have to sue AJ

2018-08-10 13:31:06 UTC  

Like I can't think of a time Alex was harassing people for their gender or sexuality, but he did throw out all sorts of shit on people.

2018-08-10 13:31:16 UTC  

Well the thing in their TOS is "Libellious"

2018-08-10 13:31:27 UTC  

I think they can use that term without actually invoking Libel law itself.

2018-08-10 13:31:40 UTC  

although as a related aside, apparently defamation on the internet still isn't entirely clear-cut

```"Is defamation on the internet libel or slander?"

It is unclear at this point whether the transmittal of defamatory statement over the internet constitutes libel or slander. This may not seem like an important distinction but it is important, especially as to the awarding of damages. Some cases throughout the U.S. court system have tried to answer the question.

In Varian v. Deflino & Day two former employees had libeled Varian executives by posting more than 14,000 defamatory messages on over 100 different websites. The jury found that the defendants liable for defamation as well as misappropriation of the executives names.

In 2006 a Florida court awarded a plaintiff $11.3 million dollars when the defendant posted numerous comments on message boards defaming the plaintiff and her business reputation. The court did not specify whether the cause of action was based on libel or slander.

Due to the courts unwillingness to specify a specific form of defamation associated with internet use it can be perceived that the court system has not yet determined how to deal with the matter. Cyberlaw is a new and important field of law and as more cases come to trial stage the answer to this question may come with it.```

2018-08-10 13:32:16 UTC  

Like how legal treason isn't the same as the dictionary definition of treason which isn't the same as the US constitution's definition fo treason.

2018-08-10 13:32:35 UTC  

Hmm. Yeah that could be a problem.

2018-08-10 13:32:53 UTC  

What I mean though is that doing things that could be construed as libel is against YouTube the rules.

2018-08-10 13:33:08 UTC  

So if he got banned for the Mueller rapist comments or something, then I can understand.

2018-08-10 13:33:12 UTC  

I still think it's a bad move though.

2018-08-10 13:33:48 UTC  

But it does fit their actual rules, rather than banning people for fake rules or demonteizing/deleting videos for selective political interpretations of their rules.

2018-08-10 13:33:55 UTC  

Youtube would have it's hands full if it went around banning people for people talking shit on other people 🤣

2018-08-10 13:34:06 UTC  

Yeah definitely, but as usual only high profile people get hit

2018-08-10 13:35:38 UTC  

``` In a libel action, unless the plaintiff is a public official or public figure, the plaintiff does not need to prove financial damages.```


```A slander action is different. The threat of a single publication through a medium incapable of mass dissemination, longevity, or permanence shall is not considered to be as grave as that of a libelous publication. Therefore the common law requires that the plaintiff prove, not only damage to his/her reputation, but also financial damage. ```

2018-08-10 13:37:49 UTC  

Wel regardless of the legality, it's still something that they believe is against the Youtube rules.

2018-08-10 13:38:17 UTC  

Granted I do think the first two strikes on Alex Jone's youtube channel were pretty stupid too so it's a bit unfair regardless.

2018-08-10 13:38:55 UTC  

I find the whole thing dumb, tbh

2018-08-10 13:39:03 UTC  

bunch of journalists collude to get Alex kicked off youtube

2018-08-10 13:39:22 UTC  

And we know this because the fucking idiots bitched publically on twitter about it when they tried and failed last time

2018-08-10 13:39:57 UTC  

but they argue that AJ pushes 'dangerous conspiracy theories' that 'impressionably people might take action upon' or some shit

2018-08-10 13:40:12 UTC  

then go straight back to pushing their own conspiracy theories 👌

2018-08-10 13:40:46 UTC  

And nowadays we have congressmen getting shot at baseball games and others offering to pay other people reward money for killing ICE agents 👌 👌

2018-08-10 13:52:51 UTC  

@Alexmikli his banning also happened around the time of his recent lawsuit with the Sandy Hook victims

2018-08-10 13:55:20 UTC  

Now im not saying that the sandy hook shooter was justified to do what he did, because it was cowardly approach

2018-08-10 13:55:48 UTC  

But i will say that the surviving classmates who admit to bullying him are faggots

2018-08-10 13:56:03 UTC  

That's the Florida shooting

2018-08-10 13:56:17 UTC  

U mess with the bull, and you get the horns nibba

2018-08-10 13:56:36 UTC  

Sandy Hook was a guy going nuts and shooting his(abusive?) mom and then taking out his rage on the nearest large group of people which was a kindergarten

2018-08-10 13:56:50 UTC  

Oh

2018-08-10 13:56:51 UTC  

Nvm