And advocating for such

@Farseer Selna Vesha They're pretty much nonexistant these days

because they're a useful base

@Deleted User most conservatives are conserving liberal ideals of older times or just in general, the US left on the other hand is trying to turn the USA into a social democracy

If they want a social democracy, they can move elsewhere

there's plenty of countries in the world that are social democracies

Europe actually has fairly strong borders, despite it being tolerant of refugees, if you aren't skilled your stuck in America

Of course, because you SHOULD be skilled

So that's not exactly a good argument against them

That's also tens of millions your telling to migrate out, there's few places able to take them let alone willing

Even if they are social democracies

It's a powderkeg, for sure

I think they will win out in the end, social democratic policies tend to become very popular as populations become more urbanised and the USA is urbanising quite quickly

If it does, the US will balkanize *very* quickly

In fact you can almost predict much of someone politics based on whether or not they live in a city

In the USA

Not surprising, I've seen arguments ranging from the USA being composed of 11 distinct cultural nations to a group of competing ideologies and peoples with distinct desires regarding the future of the union that are directly contradictory

That will lead to balkanisation

"I'm going to sleep"

Question is, how will it balkanise , as this is a city vs rural split primarily

@Deleted User I'm a political animal

Sorry

Two coasts, southern Texas, Northern cities, while the middle part stays a continguous unit

Alaska will be its own unit, or a part of that central one

Or join Canada

lol

no

**it joins russia**

You don't know Alaska

umm I've played operation anchorage in fallout 3

No but it and Canada are ....pretty cool

let alaska choose who they want to be

stop oppressing them

They can be my cock

Not really. Alaska is like your stereotypical Texas attitude, but even stronker

this sounds dumb but

I want to visit barrow

the most northern town in the US

It's a shit Native village

the very top of Alaska

I've been to Deadhorse though