Message from @Fredde the Duck
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because i don't think an-cap philosophy will result in good conditions for regular people
flexible contracts are pretty shitty too, agree
This is why economies fail, because bleeding hearts get this idea that we need to legislate rules on how people can work
an-cap philosophy just leads people to working unreasonable hours to support themselves and their families
At my place of work if you can't work on 2 shifts where you said you were available to work you get let go
I'm not talking AnCap philosophy
@Fitzydog european/american economies have done alright since the introduction of various labour laws
This is basic economics
It's fair imo
But flexible working co tracts don't inspire loyalty from employees in my experience
One of the Scandinavian countries doesn't have a minimum wage
that country has ~100% union participation though
and the union for each industry negotiates a wage for everyone
Oof, that sucks
"mUh BaSiC eCoNoMiCs" idk i'm pretty sure every first world country has a minimum wage law, it's not vital to remove them
what I'm trying to explain to you, is thst you keep voting in your own freaking problems
i think actually the retarded working conditions developing are from importing millions of low skill workers
and the decimation of western manufacturing
if your business can't survive without employing people reliably, then your business deserves to fail
Do I need to draw up supply and demand curves, and give an introductory econ101 course on how markets determine the value of goods?
It sure seems like it
@Fitzydog the Place where I worked when I was still in HS told me they would've hired me as help programmer to help while I'm studying at uni, but they can't because with all the new hiring regulation they would either have to employ me illegally without telling the state or pay a fuckton for just a tiny bit of labour
Took so long to type you guys probably changed subject in the meanwhile
Here's a real HOT TAKE that y'all can't seem to grasp:
Labor is a product that conforms to supply and demand laws.
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And with `pay a fuckton` I mean for the hiring contract, not even in taxes for the wage
Yes they cant fire some one in the same whay and therefore dont get more employees
Now, does everyone remember what happens when an artificial price floor is introduced into the market?
labour can be exploited though?
Yes
No
problem is that people don't control the job markets, companies do.
Slavery is illegal
Yes to manifest
If you're being paid, it's not exploitation
`labour can be exploited though?`
i would argue that labour can be exploited at any pay rate though
End communism
getting paid next to nothing for work is equivalent to slavery. that's the whole point of the minimum wage
No
lotsa greys recently
Alright, for the slow kid in here that didn't grasp my statement the first time:
LABOR IS A PRODUCT THAT IS BOUGHT AND SOLD LIKE ANY OTHER THING