unions can be bad, but anti-unionism is worse

yeah

yeah

nothing changes for the better, I should have said

@PartlyAwesome Well yeah, why would you ban people from association?

Increased minimum wage also increases wage costs (duh) and can actually lead to lower employment rates

america is pretty good at anti-unionism

My friend haves a dentist place and want to fire a sucker that does a bad jobb, she cant because of union shit

@gonejamin This guy gets supply and demand

britain too

@PartlyAwesome How??

how?

what do you mean HOW?

We've got shit tons of unions

companies have HUGE liberties in america to crush unionisation

I think unions are great to *exist* I work at a non-union job, and the union-job in town keeps them scared of us forming a union, so we get all sorts of benefits

Thats good

this is why industries like video games have regular lay offs after big releases and keeping next to no permanent employees to reduce tax and healthcare costs

Companies need to be able to kick bad workers

By crush, you mean offer jobs to people not holding the company hostage? sure

Not many unions in the UK have weight anymore

Sound about right

forced unionisation is bad for sure, agree, but not being able to make unions is worse

brb

The whole concept of unions implies everyone's labor is equal

For example retail unions are garbage and just fund the labour party so.... Don't pay for them lol

`The whole concept of unions implies everyone's labor is equal
`
what lol

That is horse shit

@Tero Yes, they unionize as a group

Yes but in that group is grunts and managers

so when farmers form an organisation to lobby congress on their behalf, they are implying every cow is the same?

They get paid diffrent amou TS lol

no

they merely recognise that they constitute a group of similar individuals with a shared common interest

@gonejamin Imagine the United auto workers union.

If one guy can make 1.5 cars an hour and the other makes 1.2 cars, is it fair to pay them the same?

and that they will be able to negotiate for their interest more effectively as a group than alone

If a boss abuses someone then union can be good, when people use it as protecting them when they dont want to work no

this is nothing surprising

@Fitzydog yes,

The reason why person a can produce more could well be a product of poor management of the work place

lol no fuck that. I want quality workers on my factory floor.