Message from @gonejamin

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2019-04-20 15:26:36 UTC  

how?

2019-04-20 15:26:42 UTC  

what do you mean HOW?

2019-04-20 15:26:43 UTC  

We've got shit tons of unions

2019-04-20 15:27:04 UTC  

companies have HUGE liberties in america to crush unionisation

2019-04-20 15:27:05 UTC  

I think unions are great to *exist* I work at a non-union job, and the union-job in town keeps them scared of us forming a union, so we get all sorts of benefits

2019-04-20 15:27:26 UTC  

Thats good

2019-04-20 15:27:40 UTC  

this is why industries like video games have regular lay offs after big releases and keeping next to no permanent employees to reduce tax and healthcare costs

2019-04-20 15:27:42 UTC  

Companies need to be able to kick bad workers

2019-04-20 15:27:50 UTC  

By crush, you mean offer jobs to people not holding the company hostage? sure

2019-04-20 15:27:51 UTC  

Not many unions in the UK have weight anymore

2019-04-20 15:28:05 UTC  

Sound about right

2019-04-20 15:28:32 UTC  

forced unionisation is bad for sure, agree, but not being able to make unions is worse

2019-04-20 15:28:38 UTC  

brb

2019-04-20 15:28:39 UTC  

The whole concept of unions implies everyone's labor is equal

2019-04-20 15:28:45 UTC  

For example retail unions are garbage and just fund the labour party so.... Don't pay for them lol

2019-04-20 15:28:59 UTC  

`The whole concept of unions implies everyone's labor is equal
`
what lol

2019-04-20 15:29:08 UTC  

That is horse shit

2019-04-20 15:29:18 UTC  

@Tero Yes, they unionize as a group

2019-04-20 15:29:36 UTC  

Yes but in that group is grunts and managers

2019-04-20 15:29:44 UTC  

so when farmers form an organisation to lobby congress on their behalf, they are implying every cow is the same?

2019-04-20 15:29:47 UTC  

They get paid diffrent amou TS lol

2019-04-20 15:30:00 UTC  

no

2019-04-20 15:30:18 UTC  

they merely recognise that they constitute a group of similar individuals with a shared common interest

2019-04-20 15:30:24 UTC  

@gonejamin Imagine the United auto workers union.

If one guy can make 1.5 cars an hour and the other makes 1.2 cars, is it fair to pay them the same?

2019-04-20 15:30:36 UTC  

and that they will be able to negotiate for their interest more effectively as a group than alone

2019-04-20 15:30:38 UTC  

If a boss abuses someone then union can be good, when people use it as protecting them when they dont want to work no

2019-04-20 15:30:40 UTC  

this is nothing surprising

2019-04-20 15:30:44 UTC  
2019-04-20 15:31:08 UTC  

The reason why person a can produce more could well be a product of poor management of the work place

2019-04-20 15:31:08 UTC  

lol no fuck that. I want quality workers on my factory floor.

2019-04-20 15:31:54 UTC  

Quality is what makes countries good

2019-04-20 15:31:57 UTC  

Or they fight to keep that one retarded guy who makes like 0.7 cars an hour

2019-04-20 15:32:26 UTC  

Yeah and your company should have processes in place to motivate underperforming workers and if that doesn't work then lay them off

2019-04-20 15:32:57 UTC  

hey guys let's talk about the welfare state in america and how the democrats fucked over the blacks while they were living equally

2019-04-20 15:33:02 UTC  

@gonejamin I didn't see a union I that equation

2019-04-20 15:33:17 UTC  

`If one guy can make 1.5 cars an hour and the other makes 1.2 cars, is it fair to pay them the same?`
hold up, before you were talking about bleeding hearts being bad and now you're busting out fairness arguments?

2019-04-20 15:33:24 UTC  

can't have it both ways

2019-04-20 15:33:45 UTC  

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2019-04-20 15:33:49 UTC  

@Tero ..... I just argued against paying them the same wage.

2019-04-20 15:33:49 UTC  
2019-04-20 15:33:51 UTC  

explain libtard