and nothing changes

but the boss can literally always say no if they wanted

People.dont.negociate

the company is the one entirely in control

where was it done successfully?

You have to talk and work for better pay you cant just get it! @PartlyAwesome

I ask as a legit question

you have to find another job to be "in control"

@PartlyAwesome Yes, just like any product.

Maybe you're just a piece of shit who's labor is worthless?

fuck state mandated minimum wage this was made by union gang

that doesn't contradict my point, but it does make it worse

@MountainMan Unions aren't that great either if mandatory

Yes

unions can be bad, but anti-unionism is worse

yeah

yeah

nothing changes for the better, I should have said

@PartlyAwesome Well yeah, why would you ban people from association?

Increased minimum wage also increases wage costs (duh) and can actually lead to lower employment rates

america is pretty good at anti-unionism

My friend haves a dentist place and want to fire a sucker that does a bad jobb, she cant because of union shit

@gonejamin This guy gets supply and demand

britain too

@PartlyAwesome How??

how?

what do you mean HOW?

We've got shit tons of unions

companies have HUGE liberties in america to crush unionisation

I think unions are great to *exist* I work at a non-union job, and the union-job in town keeps them scared of us forming a union, so we get all sorts of benefits

Thats good

this is why industries like video games have regular lay offs after big releases and keeping next to no permanent employees to reduce tax and healthcare costs

Companies need to be able to kick bad workers

By crush, you mean offer jobs to people not holding the company hostage? sure

Not many unions in the UK have weight anymore

Sound about right

forced unionisation is bad for sure, agree, but not being able to make unions is worse

brb

The whole concept of unions implies everyone's labor is equal

For example retail unions are garbage and just fund the labour party so.... Don't pay for them lol

`The whole concept of unions implies everyone's labor is equal
`
what lol

That is horse shit