And intent should matter.

Atheists are big gay too

So

Just in a different way

😢

If I tell myself I'm healthy and activr

But I'm really over weight

That's a lie

Do you 100% believe that you are though?

It doesn't matter if I don't realise that I am lying to myself. It's still a lie

True

But there is no ill intent

i always thought lies require knowledge of falsehood

Correct but then it's just nativity

Right

like, if i tell you something incorrect in good faith - that's me making a mistake - not a lie

True, that's what I've been getting at.

Being wrong vs being a liar.

People usually only have ill intent towards themselves if they're depressed

I know a few depressed people and they always seem to be caught up in dramas originating from lies in some form

They have a right to have "ill intent" towards themselves though

Well, they generally don't see what they can do.

https://twitter.com/backworldsman1/status/1121813443512872960

I highly advise against suicide or self harm but if you're an adult and have a clear state of mind you should be able to harm yourself, even commit suicide.

It's easy saying that they are depressed because they let themselves be, but they usually have no direct control over the feeling, which further dibiltates them from self improvement, making it so much worse. It spirals out of their control, at least from their perspective.

I mean micro-lies. So like if I clean my house but I notice there's a sock on the floor afterwards and I think to myself "well I just cleaned so it doesn't really matter". But it does because I looked at it and thought about it. Then you have to ask yourself "are you ok with that sock on the floor. No? Then what will you do to pick it up?"
There's better examples but I'm rooted

So lying to yourself is sorta irrelevant

Not really. What I'm trying to say is, "splitting yourself in two" and having the second half constantly being mindful of your thoughts (or as if "God" is "watching") is of great benefit

interesting.

please elaborate further sir.

Jordan Peterson talks about it. But I think he said that the splitting your psyche in two part, the new self is used as the You that's treats yourself as someone you're looking after and responsible for

I suppose so. I just try to be a good person because I should, not because I worry someone will see me, though.

It's still not as good as having friends

that's what u said in your previous msg bruv

Your "God" can easily turn into just another illusion to further your insanity

You have to have people around

^^ good point

And "God" (The psychological phenomenon) is the watching presence over the two. I think he ties it in with the holy trinity. I could be wrong I need to listen to the lectures again

I don't buy it

It's still your brain

It's you