Let's look at this from a human evolutionary psychology persepctive:

Which is more advantageous? The guy who does the bare minimum to not get the boot from his tribe, or the guy who goes above and beyond for the betterment of his tribe, even though he didn't get to choose who is in?

you can really only give back if you have amassed wealth. unless you just mean lend a hand with something.

I left the tribe years ago

fuck the tribe

@josephchansen Both. Everyone can give back

what did that tribe ever do for me

@Harazu Keshtah Yep, then you are a stain in the human fabric. Sorry lol

That's why they call it a fabric, and not a pile of thread

answer the tribe always demands the obliteration of my will and they want money with no services rendered.

Or people say they live in a 'tight knit community'

This is the way humans are meant to live: as interwoven groups working for the betterment of their neighbors

I don't agree

Okay, then go build your cabin in the woods with no children and fight off bears

sounds good to me

you talk mad shit for someone in cumshot range

I'm not an altruist I'm a capitalist

Society is not made up of individuals

pay up or render services for my money or screw off

Capitalists get farther by being altruistic

altruism is not paying people

for nothing

my very existence torpedos any hopes for a lovey dovey hive minded society because I will always say no.

Why should I work with you? You're that greedy dick that doesn't help the community?

That other guy though, the grocer? He gives his day old bread to the poor. That guy's cool

Sometimes people can't provide any benefit to society so altruism is necessary to keep them alive (think orphans)

and then I leave that community.

like tommorow

Good riddance

Most communities would just bar you

I want nothing more to do with them I'll find some capitalists thank you

Most AnCaps would bar you from their organizations

Also it is within your self interest to be altruistic, by helping your community when they are in need they will be more likely to help you when you are in need

As long as you're respecting the rights of others you're good to me.

You don't have to necessarily make society better, it's good if you do, but again as long as you're not making it worse lol.

This guy calls himself a capitalist lmao

He wouldn't last a day in AnCapistan

why the hell would I be stupid enough to depend on them

altruism in humans is pretty natural. it creates a safety net between eachother in a community. I help my neighbor, he helps me.

This is what a materialist society does to children. This guy here

then why dosen't socialism work

AnCaps would bar themselves lol

why does socalism always fail.

@Harazu Keshtah because it's forced you numbnuts

we see the same behaviour in other cultures, and in animals.