Message from @Harazu Keshtah

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2019-07-18 19:39:50 UTC  

im joking its not a bomb

2019-07-18 19:39:53 UTC  

its an EMP retard

2019-07-18 19:40:08 UTC  

the alt right revoked my white card. or at least I've been asking them to come around to do so.

2019-07-18 19:40:26 UTC  

not that they can do much because I shreaded the damn thing

2019-07-18 19:40:37 UTC  

Buzzfeed article. popular sargon chat form shares bomb making pictures

2019-07-18 19:40:59 UTC  

(I'm semi shitposting but I'm being honest)

2019-07-18 19:41:20 UTC  

@Harazu Keshtah Let me guess: your idea of collectivism is when members of a group let the group speak for them

2019-07-18 19:42:55 UTC  

That's just people being dogmatic

2019-07-18 19:43:23 UTC  

more accuratly when: the group tries to sublimate the will of the individual and because of all the hive minders around any mainstream identity driven groups have basically been transformed into that.

2019-07-18 19:43:52 UTC  

Yeah, that's just dogmatic ideology, not collectivism VS individualism

2019-07-18 19:46:18 UTC  

I think we're basicly agreeing but just squabbling over terms.

2019-07-18 19:47:31 UTC  

I don't think we are.

Most people say "I'm an American and a catholic" or whatever. They see these group affiliations as an inherent part of their identity

2019-07-18 19:49:07 UTC  

You're attempting to elevate and equate an ideology with a human behavior pattern

2019-07-18 19:49:16 UTC  

and that just seems kinda bizzare to me. to define yourself by attributes and affiliations instead just your individual name.

2019-07-18 19:49:36 UTC  

Then you're probably autistic

2019-07-18 19:50:37 UTC  

I know I'm in the minorty on this issue and tbh it's why I don't have a lot of hope for humanity.

2019-07-18 19:50:59 UTC  

Let me ask you this: let's say you live in a small town where everyone knows each other.

Do you feel a sense of dutiful obligation to help your community in some way and give back?

2019-07-18 19:51:26 UTC  

only to repay debts

2019-07-18 19:51:34 UTC  

Then you're in the minority

2019-07-18 19:51:57 UTC  

This is not normal or healthy human behavior in groups

2019-07-18 19:54:08 UTC  

there's also a bit of context to add. I don't chose the people who live physicly around me. ergo I don't have any control over those affiliation. and if I can't control a group assoaciation than I don't have any concern for that group and I don't identify with such a group. groups I chose to affiliate with though are diffrent.

2019-07-18 19:54:30 UTC  

Yeah, my point still stands

2019-07-18 19:55:43 UTC  

Let's look at this from a human evolutionary psychology persepctive:

Which is more advantageous? The guy who does the bare minimum to not get the boot from his tribe, or the guy who goes above and beyond for the betterment of his tribe, even though he didn't get to choose who is in?

2019-07-18 19:55:57 UTC  

you can really only give back if you have amassed wealth. unless you just mean lend a hand with something.

2019-07-18 19:56:04 UTC  

I left the tribe years ago

2019-07-18 19:56:14 UTC  

fuck the tribe

2019-07-18 19:56:16 UTC  

@josephchansen Both. Everyone can give back

2019-07-18 19:56:33 UTC  

what did that tribe ever do for me

2019-07-18 19:56:35 UTC  

@Harazu Keshtah Yep, then you are a stain in the human fabric. Sorry lol

2019-07-18 19:57:05 UTC  

That's why they call it a fabric, and not a pile of thread

2019-07-18 19:57:19 UTC  

answer the tribe always demands the obliteration of my will and they want money with no services rendered.

2019-07-18 19:57:33 UTC  

Or people say they live in a 'tight knit community'

2019-07-18 19:58:00 UTC  

This is the way humans are meant to live: as interwoven groups working for the betterment of their neighbors

2019-07-18 19:58:13 UTC  

I don't agree

2019-07-18 19:58:33 UTC  

Okay, then go build your cabin in the woods with no children and fight off bears

2019-07-18 19:58:52 UTC  

sounds good to me

2019-07-18 19:59:00 UTC  

you talk mad shit for someone in cumshot range

2019-07-18 19:59:18 UTC  

I'm not an altruist I'm a capitalist

2019-07-18 19:59:33 UTC  

Society is not made up of individuals

2019-07-18 19:59:37 UTC  

pay up or render services for my money or screw off

2019-07-18 19:59:49 UTC  

Capitalists get farther by being altruistic