Message from @Harazu Keshtah

Discord ID: 601498461749379092


2019-07-18 19:35:25 UTC  

Im making a radio detonated explosive charge ama

2019-07-18 19:35:47 UTC  

@amsalem did you make sure the frequency was clear first?

2019-07-18 19:36:03 UTC  

would be funny if i dident

2019-07-18 19:36:07 UTC  

but yeah i did

2019-07-18 19:36:17 UTC  

Safety first

2019-07-18 19:37:24 UTC  

based on how politics goes I must be in the minority of people who are generaly freaked out by all the hive minded collectivism going around.

2019-07-18 19:37:32 UTC  

ill send pictures

2019-07-18 19:37:33 UTC  

@Harazu Keshtah You don't classify yourself as a member of your family, community, race, or nation? Your religion?

Or are you a secular materialist non partisan who's a 'citizen of the world'?

2019-07-18 19:37:54 UTC  

Oh wait, that's a collective as well

2019-07-18 19:38:01 UTC  

You must be an alien then

2019-07-18 19:38:19 UTC  

I'm me

2019-07-18 19:38:39 UTC  

ok nigger

2019-07-18 19:38:41 UTC  

all of that other stuff are just affiliations that I'm not bound to.

2019-07-18 19:38:46 UTC  

Mmk, yeah, you are the odd one out in the scenario

2019-07-18 19:38:57 UTC  

groups I join or leave of my own volition

2019-07-18 19:39:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/601498179900276747/20190717_162938.jpg

2019-07-18 19:39:32 UTC  

@Harazu Keshtah You're conflating collectivism with communism/IdPol

2019-07-18 19:39:43 UTC  

ok for the glow in the darks that are reading this

2019-07-18 19:39:50 UTC  

im joking its not a bomb

2019-07-18 19:39:53 UTC  

its an EMP retard

2019-07-18 19:40:08 UTC  

the alt right revoked my white card. or at least I've been asking them to come around to do so.

2019-07-18 19:40:26 UTC  

not that they can do much because I shreaded the damn thing

2019-07-18 19:40:37 UTC  

Buzzfeed article. popular sargon chat form shares bomb making pictures

2019-07-18 19:40:59 UTC  

(I'm semi shitposting but I'm being honest)

2019-07-18 19:41:20 UTC  

@Harazu Keshtah Let me guess: your idea of collectivism is when members of a group let the group speak for them

2019-07-18 19:42:55 UTC  

That's just people being dogmatic

2019-07-18 19:43:23 UTC  

more accuratly when: the group tries to sublimate the will of the individual and because of all the hive minders around any mainstream identity driven groups have basically been transformed into that.

2019-07-18 19:43:52 UTC  

Yeah, that's just dogmatic ideology, not collectivism VS individualism

2019-07-18 19:46:18 UTC  

I think we're basicly agreeing but just squabbling over terms.

2019-07-18 19:47:31 UTC  

I don't think we are.

Most people say "I'm an American and a catholic" or whatever. They see these group affiliations as an inherent part of their identity

2019-07-18 19:49:07 UTC  

You're attempting to elevate and equate an ideology with a human behavior pattern

2019-07-18 19:49:16 UTC  

and that just seems kinda bizzare to me. to define yourself by attributes and affiliations instead just your individual name.

2019-07-18 19:49:36 UTC  

Then you're probably autistic

2019-07-18 19:50:37 UTC  

I know I'm in the minorty on this issue and tbh it's why I don't have a lot of hope for humanity.

2019-07-18 19:50:59 UTC  

Let me ask you this: let's say you live in a small town where everyone knows each other.

Do you feel a sense of dutiful obligation to help your community in some way and give back?

2019-07-18 19:51:26 UTC  

only to repay debts

2019-07-18 19:51:34 UTC  

Then you're in the minority

2019-07-18 19:51:57 UTC  

This is not normal or healthy human behavior in groups

2019-07-18 19:54:08 UTC  

there's also a bit of context to add. I don't chose the people who live physicly around me. ergo I don't have any control over those affiliation. and if I can't control a group assoaciation than I don't have any concern for that group and I don't identify with such a group. groups I chose to affiliate with though are diffrent.

2019-07-18 19:54:30 UTC  

Yeah, my point still stands

2019-07-18 19:55:43 UTC  

Let's look at this from a human evolutionary psychology persepctive:

Which is more advantageous? The guy who does the bare minimum to not get the boot from his tribe, or the guy who goes above and beyond for the betterment of his tribe, even though he didn't get to choose who is in?