Message from @gottaname
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TGIF
time to get a drink
I don't really have a problem with people being held in custody when charged with violent crimes. I just want that standard to be applied equally, and if it can be proven without doubt that the accuser made it up, they should face harsh punishment for depriving that person of their liberty
@InsaneCaterpilla could always open up a civil suit
imprisoning someone isn't going to help, lost money might
People can rely on others for their lifestyle. They can't do that in prison
yeah, but the taxpayers man
I'm a supporter of a good prison system, and personally don't mind that my taxes go toward keeping prisoners alive and reforming them to be positive contributors to society.
what happens if that person will never be a contributor to society or a net drain?
Then that is a failing of society, not just the individual
perhaps
do you believe in capital punishment?
No
but life sentence is fine?
Being in prison the rest of your life, to me, is worse than death, but I feel its's acceptable because a society shouldn't murder its own members unless it can help it. The death penalty can be abused and the innocent cannot reclaim their lives.
In the above I'm assuming you mean a life sentence means life, as the majority of the time it doesn't.
yeah, because the thing is
I support capital punishment but in certain cases only
the reason why people don't support capital punishment is because of the way its handed out
i don't support it because the judge and jury are people and they make mistakes
There are all kinds of things that can be done to reform criminals into useful, positive people, and although I am not removing blame from people for the actions they choose to commit, to a certain extent society has produced this person
but in other country's ones
not so
it's not about trust, it's about people making mistakes which can and does happen
what about corporal punishment, or public shaming
sure, but what happens if its beyond a doubt
I come from singapore
we're famous for caning people
but nobody questions the process because we're rigourous on it
it is supposed to be beyond reasonable doubt, but even in good systems mistakes happen
and a capital punishment is not a mistake that can be fixed
yes, that's why even in singapore, we don't dish it out regularly
people think we cane everyone or we hang every single drug trafficker we lay our hands on
that's incorrect
plus death row in the us is gendered
98% of death row inmates were male
oh
yeah, then that's the problem
we hang both genders regardless
the law is blind to gender
i'm more for not hanging anyone but i get your point of view