Message from @Locke
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Well I made it to California.
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These pro abortion people really go through some mental gymnastics. "If women can't kill babies, then men shouldn't be allowed to use Viagra". I mean seriously wtf do they learn logic. Oh right the broken public schools.
(note I don't mean all pro abortion people just ones that tweet nonsesnse comparisons like this)
@Uberduperdrew Because they do it out of a selfish desire
For them it's not the act of abortion itself, but the fact that you're taking away a freedom for them
Having a child has a massive impact on someone's life, understandably people get upset by thoughts of being forced to do it and stupid people among those say stupid things as a result. It's a shame that people do not realise, in other conversations, that most of the impact of having a child happens after birth, which the father has to face without any options.
I agree with women's arguments that they should not be forced to carry a child if the father wants it.
Pregnancy fucks you up, affects your mental capacity, can have health side effects (postpartdum depression, etc), that are heightened when a baby is unwanted.
But you can't have your cake and eat it.
You can't dismiss the question "Well, what if the father didn't want it?" with a "lmao don't stick your dick in it then"
You can't have sex's possible consequences (a child) be removable for women but not for men.
@leuxd Exactly. There's loads of videos like that, though the one I'm thinking of was a security camera and not a social experiment.
That's the aspect for me, that makes it a men's rights issue. The topic of abortion as a whole doesn't really tie in with the movement, but the difference in equality of rights does
Exactly.
They make it so the burden of consequence is always on a man.
That's why I don't get about stupid feminists, they claim that women are equal as men in every aspect, but then also say things that clearly claim only men have the agency to suffer consequences for their actions.
Its never about responsibilities for women, only about privileges and advantages. They are against the draft, but for the right to vote. They are against mens financial abortion, but can perform it on their own.
Its just bigoted.
Those 'feminists' don't want equality
In a vengeful way
@Locke True, though I think we must differentiate between them and the ones who do want equality but are misguided by the radicals into thinking women are opressed by men.
The stupid feminists are what the "poc" (i hate that term) call white feminists
Which is a term I kind of have to agree with
They are mostly white women who only claim to be feminist for the brand aspect of it, wearing the shirts with quotes, and only want the rights and positive aspects.
The radfems legit hate men, but the ones I've talked to are more segregationist.
Oh yes. They actually talk a lot like MGTOW - except I have yet to meet a MGTOW who actually hated women. Never met a man who wanted to wipe out all women either. Radfems really do hate men. Passionately. Sometimes because one abused them and so they just apply that to all men. Sometimes just because they've been brought up to. It's kinda sad.
Eehhhhh no offence, but the MGTOW subreddit has been taken over by loads of misogynists.
I had to unsubscribe because it was awful.
This was months ago though
@Locke No offence taken. I don't read their sub but I assume it's pretty bad. Could go as toxic as radfem if left as long
I will admit there is a thing I find hilarious though
I love it when the feminists eat each other up over trans people
Gender Critical/TERFs vs the intersectional ones is always fun to watch
Oh yes. There was a riot over it last year. Lol. Meanwhile most actual trans people just want to not be bothered by either group. XD
Radfems are really crazy. Antifa is probably as bad or worse.
Very ironic that our generation's fascists are the anti-fascists. XD
infighting on their end is inevitable, since they're going in with malicious and selfish intentions to begin with. when it would be time to step down and let another take control or get the attention for the good of the group, they cant do it
Looks like all the deep conversations happen when im asleep
To be fair, cats are always asleep. lol