@leuxd oh, I'm doing pretty good. Lots of interesting stuff today. Up to anything good yourself?

@Men Are Human Me? Just a normal day I guess! I must say, I'm really surprised. I never expected to find a Men's Right movement. It makes me really happy. I always saw movements, sites, etc, talking about how bad is a man hitting and raping woman, but I never found one about men

And, by the way, I just want to say sorry about my english, it isn't my first language

Don't worry about it @leuxd, I'm sure a few people on here aren't native speakers. I'm glad you found the movement, it's something I think way more men should be a part of. Hopefully we can work together for full equality.

I agree, @Men Are Human , but, what do you mean by 'full equality'? Aren't men and women already equal?

Men don't have reproductive rights

Selective service (or the draft) is another one. In some parts of the world men are required to serve in the army for a couple of years too.

Oh, yes, you mean the conscription? That's true, when a country has a ongoing conscription, always, only men are enlisted to the army

Yep. Vietnam is a good example, but so is National Service.

Another right men don't have is a social one. Dispite most laws being equal, police will assume men are the abuser or rapist in all circumstances. Even if it doesn't make sense. I've literally seen video footage of a man sitting quietly and being hit by a woman, but then police swoop in and aresst him instead. There's a lot of that stuff and it's not very fair.

Also: legally men cannot be raped by a wiman. The crime instead is 'made to penetrate' and it is only considered sexual assault. Dispite that, a man is still liable for all child support if she gets pregnant.

It's kinda messed up.

@Men Are Human https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GccCWo_eZdw Watch this! I think this is what you are talking about!

iirc only Israel forces both genders into the army

Yeah everyone there serves in the idf right ?

There is this Facebook page called women of the idf devoted to them.

They once posted this video of an off duty female idf soldier getting like harrassed / attacked by some dude and then his friends in a bar and she krav magas the crap out of them. It was genuine self defense not glorified female on male violence.

Well I made it to California.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/bmpsxg/enjoy_your_broken_dick_syndrome_then/

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These pro abortion people really go through some mental gymnastics. "If women can't kill babies, then men shouldn't be allowed to use Viagra". I mean seriously wtf do they learn logic. Oh right the broken public schools.

(note I don't mean all pro abortion people just ones that tweet nonsesnse comparisons like this)

@Uberduperdrew Because they do it out of a selfish desire

For them it's not the act of abortion itself, but the fact that you're taking away a freedom for them

Having a child has a massive impact on someone's life, understandably people get upset by thoughts of being forced to do it and stupid people among those say stupid things as a result. It's a shame that people do not realise, in other conversations, that most of the impact of having a child happens after birth, which the father has to face without any options.

I agree with women's arguments that they should not be forced to carry a child if the father wants it.

Pregnancy fucks you up, affects your mental capacity, can have health side effects (postpartdum depression, etc), that are heightened when a baby is unwanted.

But you can't have your cake and eat it.

You can't dismiss the question "Well, what if the father didn't want it?" with a "lmao don't stick your dick in it then"

You can't have sex's possible consequences (a child) be removable for women but not for men.

@leuxd Exactly. There's loads of videos like that, though the one I'm thinking of was a security camera and not a social experiment.

That's the aspect for me, that makes it a men's rights issue. The topic of abortion as a whole doesn't really tie in with the movement, but the difference in equality of rights does

Exactly.

They make it so the burden of consequence is always on a man.

That's why I don't get about stupid feminists, they claim that women are equal as men in every aspect, but then also say things that clearly claim only men have the agency to suffer consequences for their actions.

Its never about responsibilities for women, only about privileges and advantages. They are against the draft, but for the right to vote. They are against mens financial abortion, but can perform it on their own.
Its just bigoted.

Those 'feminists' don't want equality

They want female supremacy

In a vengeful way

@Locke True, though I think we must differentiate between them and the ones who do want equality but are misguided by the radicals into thinking women are opressed by men.

The stupid feminists are what the "poc" (i hate that term) call white feminists