The market has failed. There's a good chance that many fertile people won't meet each other for their entire lives

There are always risks in life. You can't really justify taking extreme actions that harm others on the basis of this

Right, but the risks we face in the first world are leagues away from the kind of scenario I'm describing right now. It's a false equivalence

How is it a false equivalence? Most being infertile doesn't say all are, it is not by any means a destruction of humanity or even collapse of civilisation. Why would you jump to hurting others rather than research and innovation? Would it not be likely that the few who do choose to continue the race would survive? The principle of what action you can reasonably take in proportion to the risk is the same.

I should also say that it's highly unlikely that such a scenario will ever occur, thankfully

And you do both

You prepare for a brighter future

And you do what you have to right now

Whatever the means are for accomplishing those two things vary with the exact situation

Harming others when no one is being harmed is never an acceptable solution. You've apparently given up on any notion that people have bodily integrity. The reason I'm saying this is dangerous and the point I am trying to make is that your line is so easy to move. If it can be justified in this situation why can't it for any others in order to create your future? You have opened the gates to allowing such things.

I have to go rn, but I can continue later in debate maybe, probably should have moved it earlier

Take care

Again, I think there are existing legal standards and precedents that help us determine whether the ends truly do justify the means, and I expect any kind of emergency decision to be held to those kinds of standards before being implemented

We can continue in <#515246258571575297> later if you like

You take care as well. Thanks for humoring me @InsaneCaterpilla

HI

Hey @Double_A , welcome to the discord

@Rai Good that you found a reasonable one, but my personal prefered method would be to offer really really good deals to families.

Hello @Double_A

Hi team

whats up drew

hey @Senpaiblack

So how is everyone doing today?

Sad

You?

Tired mostly. Are you doing okay @Uberduperdrew ?

Exhausted personally. Have a school assignment due tonight and tomorrow, and i dont want to do either but i have to

@Aeon Zealot Yeah, that'll wear you out a hell of a lot. I hope you do well on it!

Well, heres to hoping that i can do them well enough to pass

Good luck @Aeon Zealot !

Yeah I'm ok I just miss my cat. He's at home and I'm at the office.

Ah, you’ll see him later.

What’s on the office agenda today? @Uberduperdrew

hi

hi @yafti

is percentage of rape alliagations is less than i thought

Hmm?

@Appleseal It's at least 8% (minimum) according to the FBI - which is far higher than most other crimes. That's just proven cases. The number of proven real rapes is important too - it's a very similar number. It just goes to show how important Innocent Until Proven Guilty really is.