but u can't have the Bible spoon feed you, you need to do research urself. there are numbers in the bible, you have more than you know…

eventually the wars became over trivial crap or money/territory

the way the 6000 year figures was come up with

they added all the ages of people mentioned in the bible

davey, imho....that number was fudged by an extra zero

lol

the earth is millions of years old, humans in their current configuration are about 1.5 million years old

the 'dark ages' ...imo...was when their world was dark and bleak...not our world

@Thoutzan @DaveyJones Yes with the Bible, some people have been able to date approximately the age of Humanity

been thru many ages of advancement ...only to be basically 'blasted back to the stone age' a few times

lol the bible itself is older then 6000 years

the stories in it that is

rex, bible gets rewritten a few times...history is questionable even with the bible

i used to ponder thru old greek fables and such

makes one wonder about 'divine wisdom' in even bleak ages

imo the bible was intended to convey ideas, not serve as a factual reference doc

divine wisdom?

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@SirW00f Of course, you do not have everything in the Bible, just because God's history can't be confined inside a book. But the Bible remains the main support to start to learn about who is God and what He expects from us here, on Earth

one does not need proof of god for all of existence is a proof of god

you can't prove that 😛

we're not god til we can make whole universes ..virtual gaming environments don't count as 'god like' behavior

well the bible states that we are god's children

so then he would have had to create humans out of fragments of himself

which is the only concept of god that makes any real sense to me

@DaveyJones Yes, but only from the moment that you believe in Him, otherwise you're just a God's creature

lol belief is irrelevant in this model

if you work out the logic to it's end you end up with a universe with a god that would be utterly identical to the same universe without agod

@DaveyJones Without God, none creation will exist : univers shall not exist, you and i shall not exist either

you don't know that

belief without god to some is considered logical, but without god logic makes no sense

but i don't mean to argue the existence of god, just illustrating where i stand

imo belief and knowledge are mutually exclusive

one does not leave room for the other

faith in research into making things happen or change infront of u is basis for rational thinking and observational behavior, u cannot setup the tenants of logical thinking without belief

and only can belief happen via observational theory which is logical

you don't need faith to come up with an experiment or carry it out

you confuse belief with curiosity

faith is = "i hope this works, i hope this works"