Message from @Maw

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2021-01-12 10:03:37 UTC  

There is that too.

2021-01-12 10:04:30 UTC  

I think I was commenting on your comment that they will CHARGE them with felony murder, and saying why its actually unlikely .... and how it would be nearly impossible to get "all the people in the room"

2021-01-12 10:05:26 UTC  

this was your comment

2021-01-12 10:06:01 UTC  

"Ever wonder what it's like when 20-30+ people get charged with felony murder of one person?"

2021-01-12 10:06:11 UTC  

exactly what you said

2021-01-12 10:06:30 UTC  

Yup!

2021-01-12 10:06:39 UTC  

And I stand by it.

2021-01-12 10:06:43 UTC  

Either way, this is a situation where Felony Murder makes sense.

I also wonder what the timeline between the 2 officer down calls and the ois inside the Capitol

2021-01-12 10:07:51 UTC  

no, they wont charge 20, or even 10 for 1 person...
no, they wont get charged with "felony murder"

and its highly questionable what would be the charge on the officer who got dragged on video, but at best its attempted murder and conspiracy

2021-01-12 10:08:14 UTC  

If the OIS happened just after 2 radio calls of officer down it would add clarity to the reason the officer inside the Capitol shot Ashli Bobbitt

2021-01-12 10:08:23 UTC  

and I'm explaining to you why its not the case for the riots

2021-01-12 10:09:08 UTC  

And I respectfully disagree. We'll just have to see what happens.

2021-01-12 10:09:14 UTC  

if there is no clear video of the officer who got hit with the fire extinguisher, they may be out of luck there too

2021-01-12 10:09:32 UTC  

Guarantee you there is.

2021-01-12 10:09:41 UTC  

It happened in/on the capitol grounds.

2021-01-12 10:09:54 UTC  

and you can even ask Robert how unlikely it is (your exact phrase)..... but I doubt he reads the chat here

2021-01-12 10:10:19 UTC  

I am Robert's mod. I meant ask him for his stream tomorrow!

2021-01-12 10:10:38 UTC  

IF there is a video, and they can trace the person and do facial recognition, they likely will get murder 2-3

2021-01-12 10:11:11 UTC  

I didn't know he had mods.... why haven't you modded the heck out of me?? I'm always the troublemaker

2021-01-12 10:11:25 UTC  

Because you've not broken rules? lol

2021-01-12 10:11:43 UTC  

It's why my name is red though.

2021-01-12 10:11:53 UTC  

I wasn't aware there were any rules.... i thought this was like wild wild west

2021-01-12 10:11:56 UTC  

If you click my name you'll see my user tags for this channel.

2021-01-12 10:12:10 UTC  

well... show him the chat if you want to...

2021-01-12 10:12:11 UTC  

Since it's a federal LEO who was uniformed it would be the federal equivalent to Capital Murder and a potential Death penalty case.

2021-01-12 10:12:58 UTC  

Only for the person that landed the killing blow. Felony murder has an exception for capital punishment that only the person that committed the murder can be sentenced to, accomplices cannot.

2021-01-12 10:13:29 UTC  

Fair enough, the guy holding the fire extinguisher.

2021-01-12 10:15:38 UTC  

Is there an enhancement on the penalty for felony murder if the victim is a LEO I can't remember...

2021-01-12 10:15:43 UTC  

LEO???

What I was going to mention though, is that all the murder conspiracy, attempted murder + conspiracy, etc, the charges are actually going to be much more serious because of the multiple felony charges related to rioting (whatever those are) that will be brought with it. That essentially makes it much worse, and adds many many many years to the sentencing. And whats good is it to win the murder conspiracy charge, if your other charges are still possibly gonna get you 50 years, unless you have a good lawyer i guess, dont open your mouth before you have one, and maybe get concurrent and plea down to testify....

2021-01-12 10:17:25 UTC  

oooooohhh.... law enforcement officer.... i'ts late

2021-01-12 10:17:34 UTC  

brain not working

2021-01-12 10:18:06 UTC  

I started thinking of Safari all of a sudden.... while we are about to go to war with china

2021-01-12 10:18:30 UTC  

And we're not going to war with China.

2021-01-12 10:18:38 UTC  

Sorry!

2021-01-12 10:18:53 UTC  

there is about 25% chance as of today

2021-01-12 10:22:29 UTC  

There are generally enhancements for most Crimes against persons if the actor knew that the victim was a law enforcement officer, Public Official, First Responder etc. The list varies based on state etc. So, I understand that there isn't capital punishment for co-conspirators @Maw but is there a penalty enhancement for LEOs on felony murder charges?

2021-01-12 10:23:26 UTC  

likely yes

2021-01-12 10:24:32 UTC  

I would think so. But I am no longer active LEO and I am a bit rusty on my penal codes and statutes.

2021-01-12 11:04:30 UTC  

D.C. Post Emergency Declaration.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/798507694088388608/WashingtonDCPostEmergencyDeclaration.mp4

2021-01-12 11:05:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/798507941434884106/huge-military-movement-in-washington-dc-u.s.capitol-on-lockdown.mp4

2021-01-12 11:06:53 UTC  

Trust the plan!