We'll get to affirmative action down the line.

I'm not sure what disproportionate outcomes are you talking about

the same "affirmative action" applies to work

i dont want to work at all and get the same stuff that the guy girl gets that works 100hours a week. is my guess @Eden

the same "affirmative action " applies to certain social programs that are not accessible to asians and whites

scholarships

you name it

what else is important in life?

... again, what? I honestly don't think I've **ever** heard anyone dismiss disproportionate outcomes before. Okay, let's start with poverty rates. Poverty rates are disproportionate to certain minorities and white people. Crime rates are disproportionate, incarceration rates are disproportionate, marriage rates are disproportionate, wedlock is disproportionate, funding for schools is disproportionate, access to healthcare is disproportionate. I could go on for the next hour listing things.

ok... this will take awhile to type...

Like, there is a tangible reason this is the case.

And it needs correction.

Just because people in the past said "lol not my problem" doesn't mean it's not a problem, I hope people realize that.

so the homeless problem does not exist because the MSM refuses to cover it? is that the disproportionate outcomes you are referring?

No?

ahh thought that may have been the systemic stuff you was talking about. so we need more unlawful immigrants becuse we cant even help the population we have then?

The heck are you even talking about? You're so far from the original point at this point.

ok back on topic people that are here unlawful like should get the same as the population does now...

Stop applying your leftist stereotypes to me please as more 'whataboutisms' when we're dealing with a single topic at hand.

yawn yea so whom didnt have equal opportunity in you world view?

A few minority groups, particularly those having been suppressed through various ways in the past 220+ish years.

so the world is racist and we need to fix it by lowering the bar so that noone can do well...

No. This is just some random talking point you're bringing up because I don't think you understand my position in the slightest.

It's nothing but a poor attempt at a strawman.

i am trying to but the resolve is not equality of outcome. at least in my view. poor need a leg up not a handout...

Yikes if you want to consider attempting to repair the schism created by injustice, racism, slavery and whatnot with the term 'handout', that's on you. Doesn't look good though.

only form of acceptable racism i have seen as of recent is that is against the white male.

I've never even said anything racist, you keep going off on some random stereotype of leftists you have.

As if that's something I'm doing/saying, when it's not.

slavery toward the poor and injustice only if you dont have moneys

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-interested-reaction-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-3915584

so solution is to no longer have identity politics. we can stop pointing the finger at Minority groups and move on. Poor is the majority so lets fix that and give them the same rights as the rich. Problem solved...

Weird interpretation of wanting to correct injustices done on a particular people.

Lifting the poor doesn't fix the problem of disproportionate outcomes.

so we identify the ones that get injustices? no just help them all. i have not seen people put into these groups as only a result of they birth values... how do we have disproportionate outcomes if we all got a fair shot?

Disagree vehemently. Pushing the problem aside yet again for another 50+ years is unacceptable on a moral principle.

There is no fair shot.

This is something that simply doesn't exist.

so men and woman have a fair shot in divorce?

Completely unrelated.

Stop the whataboutisms, especially those that aren't even relevant.