Message from @Karnivore
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I also don't subscribe to the quoting of scripture to be the _ONLY_ means to prove something.
Certainly, scripture is a standard of proof.
It does not void the binding authority of the church.
In other words, I don't subscribe to _sola scriptura_.
I'm sorry, Night, but I think your assertion about the pope and the Catholic church having anything to do with Daniel 2 and 7 are complete rubbish.
By scripture alone, it cannot be proven.
And that is the rule you want me to follow: sola scriptura.
Jews in the old testament also did not believe in sola scriptura.
I am here and I am listening and I’m trying to answer you’re arguments with bible
understood
It might not all happen tonight, but I am going to respond I promise and also please no I’m not trying to destroy or slander what you believe or evangelize to you. That’s is not by goal.
I understand that.
This is merely a conversation.
It doesn't have to all take place in 1 night.
It can simply flow as we and time permit.
Can you prove that the RCC is not the antichrist — we call it a counter measure— using the Bible.?
I guess that’s what we should be asking
Why do we need a vicar of God — the pope— which means he is now representing us to God when we can now pray directly to him. See the Lord’s Prayer .
For your first question, I don't have to prove that the RCC is not the antichrist. The onus is on you.
Regarding vicar, you must first define the word vicar.
> from Latin vicarius "a substitute, deputy, proxy," noun use of adjective vicarius "substituted, delegated," from vicis "change, interchange, succession; a place, position"
Peter was assigned Vicar of Christ, by Jesus Christ himself.
I'm sure you know the bible verse.
Pope Francis is the current Vicar of Christ, though Apostolic succession.
He was not signed the vocal of Christ
Vicar
I do not the scripture you are talking aboutandnwill get back to on any more but I am head to the music chat to play a bunch of sappy love song folk music and doze off
Yes, it's very late.
This can continue another time.
I'll post this here for you to read later.
> The Vicar of Christ as the wise and faithful steward whom his Master (Jesus Christ) has set over His household (the Church on earth) to care for His other servants (Christians) in until His return (Second Coming). (Luke 12:41-46; Matthew 24:45-51)
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> The Vicar of Christ is the man to whom Jesus Christ entrusted the feeding and tending of His lambs and sheep (Christians). (John 21:15-17)
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> The Vicar of Christ is the man to whom Jesus Christ entrusted the keys of His Kingdom. (Matthew 16:18-19; prefigured in Isaiah 22:15-24.)
@nightstvlker I was going back and re-reading a bit of what you posted earlier.
I had never heard of those things before the other day.
Turns out that it's a commonly-used SDA attack on Catholics.
It is, but im not an sda
Or a Mormon
Or a Jehovah’s Witness
And sever different variations of Christianity also believe this
Several
I’m not attacking Catholics — although I apologize to any who I offend but it still does not negate the fact that I believe the actual church is the Antichrist