Message from @Karnivore
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none of what?
There are 3 or 4 kings just before Daniel 7
None of what occurred in the 7 was done till after the Bible was written
I think what you're trying to say is that what was depicted in Daniel's vision was to take place much later, after the bible was compiled.
Is that what you mean?
If so, I would agree.
If not, please explain.
Yes that is what I meant
great
I agree with that statement.
But yeah, it’s really hard study for a lot of people @Karnivore
I also agree with that statement.
But I ve always wanted to see the Bible explained with history.
And history that you can find in text books or websites that don’t believe in the Bible.
Those are what I called irrefutable facts.
Because both sides agree that these facts correlate. The may not be trying to explain Daniel but the history is the same.
I'm not following you. Are you saying that "history" disconnected from the bible is an irrefutable fact?
I also don't subscribe to the quoting of scripture to be the _ONLY_ means to prove something.
Certainly, scripture is a standard of proof.
It does not void the binding authority of the church.
I'm sorry, Night, but I think your assertion about the pope and the Catholic church having anything to do with Daniel 2 and 7 are complete rubbish.
By scripture alone, it cannot be proven.
And that is the rule you want me to follow: sola scriptura.
Jews in the old testament also did not believe in sola scriptura.
I am here and I am listening and I’m trying to answer you’re arguments with bible
understood
It might not all happen tonight, but I am going to respond I promise and also please no I’m not trying to destroy or slander what you believe or evangelize to you. That’s is not by goal.
I understand that.
This is merely a conversation.
It doesn't have to all take place in 1 night.
It can simply flow as we and time permit.
Can you prove that the RCC is not the antichrist — we call it a counter measure— using the Bible.?
I guess that’s what we should be asking
Why do we need a vicar of God — the pope— which means he is now representing us to God when we can now pray directly to him. See the Lord’s Prayer .
For your first question, I don't have to prove that the RCC is not the antichrist. The onus is on you.
Regarding vicar, you must first define the word vicar.
> from Latin vicarius "a substitute, deputy, proxy," noun use of adjective vicarius "substituted, delegated," from vicis "change, interchange, succession; a place, position"
Peter was assigned Vicar of Christ, by Jesus Christ himself.
I'm sure you know the bible verse.
Pope Francis is the current Vicar of Christ, though Apostolic succession.