Message from @Bozingle

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2019-08-21 21:03:18 UTC  

More or less.

2019-08-21 21:04:18 UTC  

I usually just treat scope as a scope statement and leave the details in the schedule, but it seems PMI dictates that all the tasks being in the scope portion and the schedule is just timing and dependencies.

2019-08-21 21:06:41 UTC  

With one of the proposals, I fear that one of the things I worked on would be useless.

2019-08-21 21:06:57 UTC  

And my boss is telling me to "look forward."

2019-08-21 21:07:30 UTC  

It'll probably make more sense to me after my nap.

2019-08-21 21:08:19 UTC  

He was saying how this one thing that i worked on might seem useless now, it doesnt mean scrap it. Just keep it just in case.

2019-08-21 21:08:39 UTC  

Like how we never know our research will be useful until decades later.

2019-08-21 21:09:08 UTC  

also, you can't get that time back

2019-08-21 21:09:41 UTC  

He's basically reminding you of the "Sunk cost fallacy." That's a promising sign that your boss is a man of integrity.

2019-08-21 21:12:06 UTC  

I dont know the sunk cost fallacy.

2019-08-21 21:22:57 UTC  

Can you explain it?

2019-08-21 21:28:56 UTC  

Based on what I've read of it, i dont see how it applies.

2019-08-21 21:30:23 UTC  

Software development is pretty different. You could create tools that you wind up not using, but you could salvage for another problem.

2019-08-21 21:30:45 UTC  

In this case, it's time and effort.

2019-08-21 21:30:49 UTC  

Yes

2019-08-21 21:30:57 UTC  

What @Deleted User said

2019-08-21 21:31:36 UTC  

He's dumped a lot of time and effort into a feature. However, since there's no way to recoup that "cost," it doesn't make sense to let it factor into your decisions.

2019-08-21 21:32:26 UTC  

that said, the absence of reward for work done is a motivational hygiene called extinction.

2019-08-21 21:34:03 UTC  

And, this specifically was illustrated in class. Engineers do some work, the boss says, yeah, we're not going this direction anymore, scrap it all. Engineers stop trying so hard and even quit.

2019-08-21 21:37:25 UTC  

i think i'm thick 😧

2019-08-21 21:37:49 UTC  

I dont think this logic applies very well with my situation at the moment.

2019-08-21 21:37:54 UTC  

never know what you're talking about

2019-08-21 21:38:59 UTC  

He's telling me to keep this piece because it may become useful for our sponsor again.

2019-08-21 21:39:31 UTC  

I may be misinterpreting too.

2019-08-21 21:39:38 UTC  

Im exhausted.

2019-08-21 21:44:03 UTC  

I am pretty sure clients can be charged for changing direction

2019-08-21 21:44:12 UTC  

At least in my case they do

2019-08-21 21:45:07 UTC  

For this, i interpret it as the logic that you don't always know whether what you're working on will impact society or be useful.

2019-08-21 21:46:12 UTC  

And the sponsor isnt changing directions, just we're trying to figure out what they want.

2019-08-21 21:46:29 UTC  

Then there is a communication problem

2019-08-21 21:46:39 UTC  

Exactly.

2019-08-21 21:46:55 UTC  

Are you using agile

2019-08-21 21:47:00 UTC  

Scrum ?

2019-08-21 21:47:12 UTC  

For project management

2019-08-21 21:47:14 UTC  

And with our clarification, the thing we're working on might become less useful.

2019-08-21 21:47:21 UTC  

Nani?

2019-08-21 21:49:42 UTC  

We don't use scrum

2019-08-21 21:50:20 UTC  

We just do the high priority stuff. No bells and whistles.

2019-08-21 21:52:34 UTC  

Maybe I'll look into scrum at some point, though, it's too late to apply any project management techniques.

2019-08-21 21:52:52 UTC  

The reason I am asking is because daily meeting by using such methodologies solve the communication part

2019-08-21 21:53:28 UTC  

When it comes to dev it’s pretty much a must these days