and the most intelligent ones have about the level of intelligence of a toddler

But there's ALSO studies showing that chimps think the most like us. So if you have 2 conflicting studies, which one do you pick ?

I have never seen a study that says chimps think like us

if there is one, you are free to send me the info.

Just even look at their behavior, they mimic our behavior much more exactly in my opinion

but I would request that you watch the one I sent you before making any judgment

Mimicing is NOT thinking

that's just mimicing

there is a difference

And plus, I would consider a study not something that ends in something solidly factual, because you can never truly know what a brain is thinking.

Watch the show... and then see what you think

You can run tests and study it, but that doesn't end in something irrefutable

Again... watch the show...

we can't not really discuss this well without the knowledge of the studies...

if you send me the information on the studies you mtntioned, I would be happy to look at them

I apply the reasoning though to most all studies.

LOL... the reasoning is IN the study...

Nothing has to be a fact just cuz it was heavily studied and gave a result

Again... WATCH the show...

THEN tell me what you think

Like we know, things eventually get changed or refuted, even if it takes hundreds of years.

Since neither of us has conducted such a study ourselves we must rely on others

OMG...

You are really unwilling to open your mind and watch the show....

That's sad

nor have you send me links to any relevant studies...

That I never said

I didn't say I'm willing to watch it, you're inferring that

Then watch the show... and send me your studies...

I'm talking now about ANY study on anything

But I'll save that discussion.

If you are unwilling to believe any study on anything then you are gonna have a really tough time...

our lives are bassed on studies...

Just because they are studies does not mean they are wrong

and until you see the research, you won't know.

Again, something I didn't say

I didn't say I couldn't personally believe any study, I'm saying something doesn't have to be factual just because a study was done

well.... instead of arguing that it's just studies, you COULD say, OK... I'll watch it. And here is my study for you to review...

that would be much more helpful!!

I can believe a study whilst at the same time understanding it might not be fully factual and always be factual for eternity

Many things are factual because a study has been done...