Message from @JunoBlade

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2020-12-09 19:48:37 UTC  

and until you see the research, you won't know.

2020-12-09 19:48:39 UTC  

Again, something I didn't say

2020-12-09 19:49:02 UTC  

I didn't say I couldn't personally believe any study, I'm saying something doesn't have to be factual just because a study was done

2020-12-09 19:49:16 UTC  

well.... instead of arguing that it's just studies, you COULD say, OK... I'll watch it. And here is my study for you to review...

2020-12-09 19:49:24 UTC  

that would be much more helpful!!

2020-12-09 19:49:30 UTC  

I can believe a study whilst at the same time understanding it might not be fully factual and always be factual for eternity

2020-12-09 19:49:44 UTC  

Many things are factual because a study has been done...

2020-12-09 19:49:45 UTC  

LOL

2020-12-09 19:50:01 UTC  

And I never said a study is wrong for being a study

2020-12-09 19:50:03 UTC  

it is a FACT that male genetic material is what determines the sex of a baby...

2020-12-09 19:50:21 UTC  

in contrast to what they used to think...

2020-12-09 19:50:50 UTC  

So again... the ONLY way you can know if you believe the assertion or not is to review the study...

2020-12-09 19:51:13 UTC  

Well, if they USED to think that (meaning a former fact), how do we know a current fact won't change to an updated fact ?

2020-12-09 19:51:42 UTC  

We have to determine what the definition of fact is. Is a fact eternal, or can a fact be changed into a new fact based on new understanding ?

2020-12-09 19:52:05 UTC  

Because back then they didn't know about cells, alleles and genetics... now we do

2020-12-09 19:52:19 UTC  

just because knowledge changes does not mean something can not become fact

2020-12-09 19:52:22 UTC  

2020-12-09 19:52:25 UTC  

And aren't there further things of which we don't yet know ?

2020-12-09 19:52:39 UTC  

You're always sounding like we've reached the absolute pinnacle of what we can know

2020-12-09 19:52:42 UTC  

when you learn about things you can't see, such as alleles, then you are able to answer questions

2020-12-09 19:53:02 UTC  

I never said we have reached the pinnacle of what we know. LOL

2020-12-09 19:53:23 UTC  

But we HAVE, through learning about cells and genetics, benn able to answer some long asked questions

2020-12-09 19:53:39 UTC  

Because you sound as if all the things the scientific community says is 100% factual, those things could never change based upon greater technology or more information.

2020-12-09 19:53:44 UTC  

you sound like you are unwilling to believe anything no matter what eveidence is presented

2020-12-09 19:54:14 UTC  

I never said things can't change... but not ALL things

2020-12-09 19:54:18 UTC  

I'll have to rejoin this lovely conversation after work. I get off in an hour, sorry guys!

2020-12-09 19:54:25 UTC  

there are some things, that we now know are FACTS..

2020-12-09 19:54:52 UTC  

I never said that. I haven't said what I personally believe about individual things, I'm making general statements about thought and scientific processes, independently of what I personally believe about a specific subject.

2020-12-09 19:55:17 UTC  

it is a FACT that the genetic material that chooses the sex of a child is from the father. We have identified the chomosomes involved. The chomosomes are the smallest thing there is on that score.

2020-12-09 19:55:23 UTC  

that science is settled...

2020-12-09 19:55:24 UTC  

Also, when I type 1 single messages, you've typed 5 or 6, so then the thoughts get so intermingled it's more difficult to expound on what both of us are saying

2020-12-09 19:55:48 UTC  

OK... then I would ask you to watch the show I liked above

2020-12-09 19:56:00 UTC  

Which I can do.

2020-12-09 19:56:04 UTC  

then we should talk about intelligence in animals

2020-12-09 19:56:07 UTC  

Now that that is out of the way.....................

2020-12-09 19:56:26 UTC  

But you also have to send me whatever studies you got your information from

2020-12-09 19:56:33 UTC  

Even chromosomes could be examined in a greater way with future technology, you just can't know.

2020-12-09 19:56:34 UTC  

otherwise I am at a disadvantage

2020-12-09 19:57:45 UTC  

The science of how chomosomes determing out genetic makeup is a settled science. We can study dofferent ones, and how they make us who we are. But that's all

2020-12-09 19:58:04 UTC  

We can study how damage to them can damage us... but that is all