Message from @Xychotic

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2019-05-07 13:38:23 UTC  

@Xychotic Correct, most people are the same, they need training. Try to give into quirks of a dog and you lose control

2019-05-07 13:38:42 UTC  

don't get caught up in my rhetoric, read the point: a hard no as a complete sentence will garner retaliation eventually when delivered to women.

2019-05-07 13:38:54 UTC  

Dogs is actually the animal that most mimic behavior of people.

2019-05-07 13:39:44 UTC  

A 'no' can be phrased as 'I am busy'

2019-05-07 13:40:00 UTC  

But that's not the advice you gave.

2019-05-07 13:40:37 UTC  

In which universe does 'I am busy' doesn't mean 'No'?

2019-05-07 13:41:00 UTC  

You said, in no uncertain terms, "'No,' is a compete sentence."

2019-05-07 13:41:38 UTC  

'No' can be said in many ways mate. Still means the same. And it is a complete sentence

2019-05-07 13:41:40 UTC  

Which I say is dubious advice when our boi is navigating a minefield of women.

2019-05-07 13:41:57 UTC  

We all do mate

2019-05-07 13:42:57 UTC  

And I've learned that, while it is important to say no, it is equally important to do so tactfully.

2019-05-07 13:43:13 UTC  

His line 'I need to practice being more assertive' is spot on actually

2019-05-07 13:44:38 UTC  

I agree, in general. But we can't very well encourage him to just go marching along when modern women can't tell the difference between assertiveness, aggressiveness, and outright violence.

2019-05-07 13:46:09 UTC  

That is a point, but my advice where more a generalization of turning down these one sided deals. It does not mean using the word 'No', that is an example

2019-05-07 13:47:15 UTC  

I even got the cops called of me for being rude a couple of months back 😃

2019-05-07 13:47:28 UTC  

We are in a cold war. We must always remember to arm ourselves and each other with the properly nuanced tools for the jobs at hand.

2019-05-07 13:47:49 UTC  

@Xychotic That I agree with

2019-05-07 13:48:23 UTC  

Even a casual example can send an inexperienced brother down a catastrophic path.

2019-05-07 13:49:21 UTC  

You have a point there, my advice were more in general, not doing a hard 'No'. That works too btw

2019-05-07 13:50:06 UTC  

It works when you have earned some modicum of respect. But it is still a heavy tool.

2019-05-07 13:50:31 UTC  

Women can't handle rejection. The best way to say no is to make them feel guilty for asking too much.

2019-05-07 13:50:32 UTC  

That’s that exam done.

2019-05-07 13:50:47 UTC  

So. How are we doing today, knee growths?

2019-05-07 13:51:35 UTC  

I'm doing well. It is a delight being able to have a carefully crafted conversation with a fellow man that doesn't devolve into ad hominem.

2019-05-07 13:52:26 UTC  

What does these level messages mean? I just leveled up for some reason

2019-05-07 13:52:37 UTC  

just chat activity

2019-05-07 13:52:47 UTC  

Ok, thanks

2019-05-07 13:52:47 UTC  

You gain xp for talking

2019-05-07 14:04:45 UTC  

@Xychotic. That is often the issue I face

2019-05-07 14:04:59 UTC  

What is tactful and what is being my true self.

2019-05-07 14:05:41 UTC  

In the exchange I pointer her to ask for someone else's resources or to hit up the library or other olace for public WIFI. I also told her that sonce its a replacement phone that she should activate the phone service she pays to get a network connection.

2019-05-07 14:06:06 UTC  

She wouldn't leave so I relented to turn my phone into a hot spot for a bit

2019-05-07 14:07:37 UTC  

I just cut it off about 1.5 hrs after the ask

2019-05-07 14:08:24 UTC  

I waa told she needed to send an email to her kids and to help prepare for her leaving this job.

2019-05-07 14:08:46 UTC  

Still, I see where I fell in making her problems to be my problems

2019-05-07 14:10:25 UTC  

This is a good time to use the phrase 'I would love to help you out, but I am really busy now'

2019-05-07 14:11:25 UTC  

I feel kinda stupid for not having thought of that too

2019-05-07 14:11:33 UTC  

Other than that you have it spot on already

2019-05-07 14:12:19 UTC  

Thanks, I think that phrase would have helped me out if I had inserted it and still retained my tact

2019-05-07 14:13:10 UTC  

@Jack Mehoff You practically have that tactfulness settles already

2019-05-07 14:14:18 UTC  

Using the phrase 'I am busy right now' is a very tactful way of saying 'No'