Message from @Jack Mehoff

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2019-05-07 13:42:57 UTC  

And I've learned that, while it is important to say no, it is equally important to do so tactfully.

2019-05-07 13:43:13 UTC  

His line 'I need to practice being more assertive' is spot on actually

2019-05-07 13:44:38 UTC  

I agree, in general. But we can't very well encourage him to just go marching along when modern women can't tell the difference between assertiveness, aggressiveness, and outright violence.

2019-05-07 13:46:09 UTC  

That is a point, but my advice where more a generalization of turning down these one sided deals. It does not mean using the word 'No', that is an example

2019-05-07 13:47:15 UTC  

I even got the cops called of me for being rude a couple of months back 😃

2019-05-07 13:47:28 UTC  

We are in a cold war. We must always remember to arm ourselves and each other with the properly nuanced tools for the jobs at hand.

2019-05-07 13:47:49 UTC  

@Xychotic That I agree with

2019-05-07 13:48:23 UTC  

Even a casual example can send an inexperienced brother down a catastrophic path.

2019-05-07 13:49:21 UTC  

You have a point there, my advice were more in general, not doing a hard 'No'. That works too btw

2019-05-07 13:50:06 UTC  

It works when you have earned some modicum of respect. But it is still a heavy tool.

2019-05-07 13:50:31 UTC  

Women can't handle rejection. The best way to say no is to make them feel guilty for asking too much.

2019-05-07 13:50:32 UTC  

That’s that exam done.

2019-05-07 13:50:47 UTC  

So. How are we doing today, knee growths?

2019-05-07 13:51:35 UTC  

I'm doing well. It is a delight being able to have a carefully crafted conversation with a fellow man that doesn't devolve into ad hominem.

2019-05-07 13:52:26 UTC  

What does these level messages mean? I just leveled up for some reason

2019-05-07 13:52:37 UTC  

just chat activity

2019-05-07 13:52:47 UTC  

Ok, thanks

2019-05-07 13:52:47 UTC  

You gain xp for talking

2019-05-07 14:04:45 UTC  

@Xychotic. That is often the issue I face

2019-05-07 14:04:59 UTC  

What is tactful and what is being my true self.

2019-05-07 14:05:41 UTC  

In the exchange I pointer her to ask for someone else's resources or to hit up the library or other olace for public WIFI. I also told her that sonce its a replacement phone that she should activate the phone service she pays to get a network connection.

2019-05-07 14:06:06 UTC  

She wouldn't leave so I relented to turn my phone into a hot spot for a bit

2019-05-07 14:07:37 UTC  

I just cut it off about 1.5 hrs after the ask

2019-05-07 14:08:24 UTC  

I waa told she needed to send an email to her kids and to help prepare for her leaving this job.

2019-05-07 14:08:46 UTC  

Still, I see where I fell in making her problems to be my problems

2019-05-07 14:10:25 UTC  

This is a good time to use the phrase 'I would love to help you out, but I am really busy now'

2019-05-07 14:11:25 UTC  

I feel kinda stupid for not having thought of that too

2019-05-07 14:11:33 UTC  

Other than that you have it spot on already

2019-05-07 14:12:19 UTC  

Thanks, I think that phrase would have helped me out if I had inserted it and still retained my tact

2019-05-07 14:13:10 UTC  

@Jack Mehoff You practically have that tactfulness settles already

2019-05-07 14:14:18 UTC  

Using the phrase 'I am busy right now' is a very tactful way of saying 'No'

2019-05-07 14:14:47 UTC  

'I have to think about it' is useful too

2019-05-07 14:19:17 UTC  

Kinda leaves it open though, having to think about it

2019-05-07 14:20:25 UTC  

Yup. Never make a reason why you are busy either, you will end up having a lengthy discussion why what you are doing is more important

2019-05-07 14:20:38 UTC  

This goes for both males and females

2019-05-07 14:22:17 UTC  

Information: I am limiting the upload speed of various torrents to ensure I can upload files to the seedbox faster, what this means is that in the short term you will not be able to download from the torrents as quickly, this will change once the files are on the seedbox and seeded from there (at which point the seeding taking place on the seedbox will be a lot faster than my own connection).

2019-05-07 14:22:51 UTC  

That is the point of the phrase 'I have to think about it'. You never get around to think about it, another way of saying 'No'

2019-05-07 14:34:25 UTC  

@Xychotic my dude. that was autistic af just sayin

2019-05-07 14:34:44 UTC  

he basically said just dont give in and say no. and your acting like he said. bitch slap her

2019-05-07 14:35:15 UTC  

and also if just saying "no" is gonna get you in trouble at yoru job. ***its time to find a new job***

2019-05-07 14:37:22 UTC  

Way to go @shadowlessnexus, I completely agree with you