Message from @Deleted User

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2019-06-11 17:24:25 UTC  

Why does my value have to be set by what I have to offer to society

2019-06-11 17:24:29 UTC  

Objectively, "value" is more or less synonymous with utility.

2019-06-11 17:24:51 UTC  

because society is run for women. so how useful are you to women?

2019-06-11 17:24:53 UTC  

and if it is, then can't I generate value through raising my utility in means other than production of things with monetary value

2019-06-11 17:24:56 UTC  

value: the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or **usefulness** of something

2019-06-11 17:25:04 UTC  

thats how its judged

2019-06-11 17:25:08 UTC  

I'm not talking about it in terms of the gender war.

2019-06-11 17:25:17 UTC  

You are literally only as useful as you are to your fellows.

2019-06-11 17:25:22 UTC  

right, so by being someone virtuous and with decent moral character

2019-06-11 17:25:28 UTC  

that would raise my utility value

2019-06-11 17:25:31 UTC  

No.

2019-06-11 17:25:32 UTC  

thats not getting a thot a lambo tho

2019-06-11 17:25:44 UTC  

but what if it's a useful thing

2019-06-11 17:25:45 UTC  

to others

2019-06-11 17:25:50 UTC  

Sure, but if you're a good shot and you communicate well and use cover, you are of high value to your fellow soldiers.

2019-06-11 17:25:51 UTC  

trustworthiness has value

2019-06-11 17:26:09 UTC  

people put weight on their emotional and mental health

2019-06-11 17:26:14 UTC  

if I can boost that by being a good person

2019-06-11 17:26:19 UTC  

then wouldn't that raise my value

2019-06-11 17:26:22 UTC  

Yes.

2019-06-11 17:26:23 UTC  

or utility

2019-06-11 17:26:28 UTC  

so it doesn't have to be material

2019-06-11 17:26:32 UTC  

No. It doesn't.

2019-06-11 17:26:36 UTC  

You're all talking about very subjective elements of people's personalities

2019-06-11 17:26:39 UTC  

Not really.

2019-06-11 17:26:40 UTC  

I was confusing utility with production of wealth

2019-06-11 17:26:43 UTC  

Yes.

2019-06-11 17:26:44 UTC  

and some things you just can't buy

2019-06-11 17:26:46 UTC  

That's a common mistake.

2019-06-11 17:26:47 UTC  

okay

2019-06-11 17:27:05 UTC  

but self worth and utility have to be correlated

2019-06-11 17:27:07 UTC  

in some way

2019-06-11 17:27:10 UTC  

Because, let's face it, if you and I were bros and, let's take your name, you were the one that got me to go to the gym and lift more than I would for myself, you're of value. To me.

2019-06-11 17:27:10 UTC  

to my 2nd point

2019-06-11 17:27:26 UTC  

"Their morals, their code; it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. You'll see- I'll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They'll eat each other. See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve."

2019-06-11 17:27:37 UTC  

people that tend to have high self worth tends to have high utility value

2019-06-11 17:27:40 UTC  

and vice versa

2019-06-11 17:27:40 UTC  

Correlation, yes, causation, weak to moderate (and that's usually going from utility to self worth, not the other way around).

2019-06-11 17:28:01 UTC  

self-worth can grant you higher utility

2019-06-11 17:28:08 UTC  

your mentality can make you work harder

2019-06-11 17:28:15 UTC  

fake it till you make it kind of thing