Message from @unholybob

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2019-07-08 08:01:40 UTC  

There are disadvantages with the CCR5-Δ32, but I don't remember what those were.

2019-07-08 08:01:58 UTC  

It might kill the protein's function

2019-07-08 08:05:25 UTC  

"It is likely that CCR5 plays a role in inflammatory responses to infection, though its exact role in normal immune function is unclear. Regions of this protein are also crucial for chemokine ligand binding, the functional response of the receptor, and HIV co-receptor activity." - wikipedia

2019-07-08 08:06:57 UTC  

"CCR5 Δ32 has an (heterozygote) allele frequency of 10% in Europe, and a homozygote frequency of 1%.

Recent research indicates that CCR5 Δ32 enhances cognition and memory. In 2016, researchers showed that removing the CCR5 gene from mice significantly improved their memory.[43] CCR5 is a powerful suppressor for neuronal plasticity, learning, and memory; CCR5 over-activation by viral proteins may contribute to HIV-associated cognitive deficits." - also wikipedia

2019-07-08 08:07:48 UTC  

Hmm

2019-07-08 08:08:09 UTC  

Ah is that that gebe the Chinese edited out from the first gene edit babies?

2019-07-08 08:08:23 UTC  

dunno... probably.

2019-07-08 08:09:08 UTC  

I can remember, that they added some hiv immunity and one article stated it also may have enhanced their cognitive abilities

2019-07-08 08:09:36 UTC  

lol, they're Europeanizing their babies...

2019-07-08 08:10:14 UTC  

But I mean, a 10% allele frequency...
It seems it has some benefits, but it's not so strong that it spreads faster

2019-07-08 08:11:09 UTC  

I'm sure there's some decrease in macrophage activity or something... but, if not, if it's all good, then cool.

2019-07-08 08:11:50 UTC  

For as much immunology work I do, I'm woefully stupid on a lot of things.

2019-07-08 08:12:26 UTC  

I'm a biochemist, though... that's too big for me.

2019-07-08 08:12:37 UTC  

I like molecules.

2019-07-08 08:13:54 UTC  

Hehe cool

2019-07-08 08:14:59 UTC  

So, in general, on one hand, I think all the use of antibiotics etc just accelerated evolution of the bacteria, and there are a lot of multi resistant variants out there

And then comes the std epidemic on top of that size to hookup culture

I think even modern medicine won't be able to cope with that unless we get some nanobots which eliminate all the diseases

2019-07-08 08:15:07 UTC  

Plus, 10% is pretty good for less than 1000 years.

2019-07-08 08:15:49 UTC  

Bacteriophages, man... bacteriophages...

2019-07-08 08:17:34 UTC  

The best antibiotics will be bacteria-specific viruses... but it'll be a genetic arms race between bacteria and viruses, just like (naturally derived) antibiotics were an arms race between bacteria and fungi.

2019-07-08 08:18:36 UTC  

But, there's a serious bioethics question about unleashing a transgenic bacteriophage into the wild...

2019-07-08 08:19:09 UTC  

I doubt it's a problem though.

2019-07-08 08:19:19 UTC  

*creates zombie virus*

2019-07-08 08:19:32 UTC  

"oops"

2019-07-08 08:19:41 UTC  

(j/k)

2019-07-08 08:20:31 UTC  

(unless you're a bacterium)

2019-07-08 08:28:08 UTC  

yeah ok, bateriophages are basically a precursor of nanobots
why creating it ALL when there is actually an "infrastructure" there, which can attack bacteria

2019-07-08 08:28:41 UTC  

but the point remains, it is still an arms race, unless you have the 80, 90 or 99% solution

2019-07-08 08:29:35 UTC  

I mean, I'd be totally ok wiping out mosquitos, I HATE these things
nature will probably find a new equilibrium after they are gone
(probably same with flies) ...

2019-07-08 08:31:06 UTC  

also there are a lot of interesting ethical questions,
I'm ok with humans asserting dominance over their surroundings /nature, that's what we evolved to do (mainly by removing the dangers)

2019-07-08 08:32:11 UTC  

but when we continue playing that game, with transgenic babies/humans ...
and we include more and more other genes, which make us stronger, increase our abilities, etc ...
is there a point, where they basically stop being "human" and are a new species ?

2019-07-08 09:08:34 UTC  

It’s fine. I don’t want to be human anyway.

2019-07-08 09:19:52 UTC  

I'm playing Skyrim as a redgaurd. What do y'all think, imperials or stormcloaks? 🤔

2019-07-08 09:44:48 UTC  

Do you want to weaken the thalmors grip on the empire from within or from the outside?

2019-07-08 09:45:13 UTC  
2019-07-08 09:46:45 UTC  

I actually played as a thalmor agent last playthrough, but this time I'm a stomg independent *KANG* rallying to liberate Skyrim from the white man <:lolz:480186121897377792> but actually I'd say outside 😉

2019-07-08 09:57:43 UTC  

Yo yo yo

2019-07-08 10:00:18 UTC  

I know the solution to skyrim

2019-07-08 10:00:20 UTC  

Just don't play it

2019-07-08 10:01:53 UTC  

Stormcloaks if the outside

2019-07-08 10:02:32 UTC  

Man blackreach is fucking crazy

2019-07-08 10:08:42 UTC  

@Nawalter Jizney congrats on mod status