Message from @Jwolf

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2020-12-10 17:22:48 UTC  

Awesome, can you explain in simple terms why it was unconstitutional and what it made it so?

2020-12-10 17:29:09 UTC  

Also, what is the difference between silver and bronze policies? im reading both articles right now

2020-12-10 17:29:15 UTC  

Well, the Individual Mandate required everybody to have health insurance, or pay a fine at the end of the year for each month you did not have health insurance. Here is an excerpt from an article describing why it is unconstitutional. "The 5th Circuit decided that the individual mandate as amended by the TCJA is unconstitutional. The court agreed with the state and individual plaintiffs and the federal government’s assertion that the requirement to produce some revenue is “essential” to the Supreme Court’s earlier finding in NFIB that the individual mandate could be saved as a valid exercise of Congress’s power to tax. Without that feature, the mandate is a command to purchase health insurance, which as the Supreme Court held in NFIB, is an unconstitutional exercise of Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce." (https://www.kff.org/health-reform/issue-brief/explaining-california-v-texas-a-guide-to-the-case-challenging-the-aca/)

The key reason it had been found constitutional in previous cases was due to the power to tax, however, the Supreme Court is *California v. Texas* determined that although they have a power to create some revenue, they do not have the power to force people to buy health insurance, through the interstate commerce act.

2020-12-10 17:30:33 UTC  

Forcing people to buy health care should be a crime

2020-12-10 17:30:58 UTC  

Buy health care or be fined

2020-12-10 17:32:38 UTC  

The amount of coverage. There are generally three groupings: bronze, silver, and gold. Gold offers the most coverage and is the most expensive. Bronze is the cheapest, but generally the best option for healthy young people that are using insurance as protection in the worst scenario. https://www.bcbsm.com/index/health-insurance-help/faqs/topics/buying-insurance/metal-tiers.html

Here is Blue Cross Blue Shields Explanation.

2020-12-10 17:34:10 UTC  

Thank you Froski. a lot of reading to do here and a lot to absorb

2020-12-10 17:35:25 UTC  

Whoops.

2020-12-10 17:44:08 UTC  

Okay, awesome, I understand whats going on here a bit better now.

2020-12-10 17:47:06 UTC  

Trump also allowed Non-ACA insurances which is what I probably do when I age out of my parents insurance but still in college so won't have my own employer insurance. It's basically a even more bare bone insurance that are cheap (like sub $100) but have high deductibles and don't cover prescriptions but is there for you if you have an emergency.

2020-12-10 17:52:48 UTC  

thank you! good addition

2020-12-10 17:54:06 UTC  

I appreciate everyone's helps and contributions. learned a lot in a very short amount of time. maybe this will help educate more people as well. a trans person that was arguing agreed with gun rights, being able to drive a v8, freedom of speech etc... but their main grievance was that "Trump was taking away healthcare and protections within it for trans people" so who knows, maybe this could be the thing that changes that person's opinion.

2020-12-10 17:57:10 UTC  

So, on that point, I'd ask them what they consider trans to be? Do they consider it to be a mental illness? Because I think the first criticism stemmed from restricting trans people from the military because, assuming they believe it is a mental illness, we cannot have people with mental illnesses in the military.

2020-12-10 17:58:13 UTC  

the military ban was not brought up, but im not sure what they think it is. some of them are pretty hard flaming leftists, so I would lean towards them not believing its a mental illness, its just how some people are.

2020-12-10 17:58:45 UTC  

I agree with that assertion about the military though. Trans has a 40% (somewhat debatable) suicide rate, and we cant have that in a warzone.

2020-12-10 17:59:53 UTC  

Also something funny I just thought of, is I once had someone argue with me about how that was disgusting and evil and how trans people should be allowed to serve their country if they want too, its disgusting that Trump wants to prevent those people from serving... but that comes from a leftist who hates Trump, hates America, thinks Trump is a fascist, and thinks America is bad an imperialistic... interesting.

2020-12-10 18:48:07 UTC  

Thank you @Jwolf for these articles

2020-12-10 18:48:28 UTC  

They just linked me two articles that Blaire White debunked in her video, and showed that they actually issued retractions for later.

2020-12-10 18:49:03 UTC  

Blaire is great.

2020-12-10 18:49:08 UTC  

And you are welcome!

2020-12-10 18:58:52 UTC  

They still think they are completely right. bruh. they posted articles that had has issued retractions for, and they are saying Blaire White is wrong and doesnt speak for anything

2020-12-10 18:59:41 UTC  

fucking lost cause retards. they think posting more articles from left wing sources that are carbon copies of the CNN one prove their point... while I use sources from left wing sources, right wing sources, medical pages, nonpartisan sources, etc.

2020-12-10 18:59:44 UTC  

fucking clowns.

2020-12-10 19:00:05 UTC  

I tried, but its hopeless. they ignored every little bit of evidence I had and instead said "Well, this is my personal experience which debunks all that!"

2020-12-10 19:00:30 UTC  

Thanks anyway Froski, David, Jwolf.

2020-12-10 19:02:06 UTC  

damn that makes me angry.

2020-12-10 19:02:25 UTC  

they were trying to call me closed minded... someone on the right accepting of transgenderism...?

2020-12-10 19:40:38 UTC  

They get even more angry when it is an actual LGBT person who disagrees with them

2020-12-10 21:37:01 UTC  

Andrew Klavan premiered a video called "Fang Fang and Fart Boy | Ep. 1008" on youtube earlier but it's unavailable now. Is there a link to where I can find the episode?

2020-12-10 23:06:01 UTC  

@❄֍Winter Soul֍❄ you're able to listen to it at the daily wire (here: https://www.dailywire.com/episode/ep-1008-fang-fang-and-fart-boy-2)
I can't find anything else

2020-12-10 23:06:31 UTC  

I'm assuming Youtube took down the episode though

2020-12-10 23:06:34 UTC  

which is sad

2020-12-10 23:06:38 UTC  

I want to see it now

2020-12-10 23:06:39 UTC  

Thank you

2020-12-10 23:07:00 UTC  

Normally I get daily wire content from youtube

2020-12-10 23:07:42 UTC  

so do I
but you can find all the episodes from ben, michael, andrew shows

2020-12-10 23:07:48 UTC  

just have to pay to watch

2020-12-10 23:08:30 UTC  

I'm not subscribed to Daily Wire 😅

2020-12-10 23:09:45 UTC  

Perhaps I'll ask my dad if he can play the episode