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communism is authoritarian

Yahs I have a problem with authoritarianism.

And social hierarchy

The soviet union and china show the failures of Marxism

> The soviet union and china show the failures of Marxism
@eh Ⓐ Agreed

> @Mine Excadrill ancaps are not anarchist
@eh Ⓐ I firstly want to say I'm not anarchist at all, but in my personal opinion ancaps are more anarchist than anarcho communists. Because in order to have communism you must have a state to control the distribution of wealth and the production of goods. In an anarcho-communist system well there is no government so what government will control the production?

> @eh Ⓐ I firstly want to say I'm not anarchist at all, but in my personal opinion ancaps are more anarchist than anarcho communists. Because in order to have communism you must have a state to control the distribution of wealth and the production of goods. In an anarcho-communist system well there is no government so what government will control the production?
@President-Elect bhcowboy the state is not needed for communism

eg your family is a commune

is the state in your family?

But you can't have wide spread communism

communes should be decentralized

I see your point but it still necessarily isn't communism

Communism must have a state.

anarchism was first used to describe libertarian socialism

But still communism must have a state

Karl Marx would agree

Anyway I have to go

karl marx isn't the founder of ancom

it's peter kropotkin

proudhon criticized marx

I know this

My point was to have true socialism or communism you must have a state

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Been subbed to Zeducation for a while now, only just decided to join the Discord today

Was a conservative before a lefty

What went wrong

I learned more

Gained more empathy, experience, learned more about history, sociology, etc. Went from calling Bernie Sanders a radical left commie in 2013 to saying he's a moderate leftist today

Politics is changing.

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I mean I agree

But we probably think for different reasons

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@Tanner#9999 honestly if you don’t intend on calling us racist I don’t see why you shouldn’t debate us

are you mutualist?