Message from @eh Ⓐ

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2020-11-17 17:50:46 UTC  

marx

2020-11-17 17:50:48 UTC  

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2020-11-17 17:50:54 UTC  

communism is authoritarian

2020-11-17 17:54:19 UTC  

Yahs I have a problem with authoritarianism.

2020-11-17 17:54:41 UTC  

And social hierarchy

2020-11-17 18:09:20 UTC  

The soviet union and china show the failures of Marxism

2020-11-17 18:44:55 UTC  

> The soviet union and china show the failures of Marxism
@eh Ⓐ Agreed

2020-11-17 20:50:49 UTC  

> @Mine Excadrill ancaps are not anarchist
@eh Ⓐ I firstly want to say I'm not anarchist at all, but in my personal opinion ancaps are more anarchist than anarcho communists. Because in order to have communism you must have a state to control the distribution of wealth and the production of goods. In an anarcho-communist system well there is no government so what government will control the production?

2020-11-17 20:51:17 UTC  

> @eh Ⓐ I firstly want to say I'm not anarchist at all, but in my personal opinion ancaps are more anarchist than anarcho communists. Because in order to have communism you must have a state to control the distribution of wealth and the production of goods. In an anarcho-communist system well there is no government so what government will control the production?
@President-Elect bhcowboy the state is not needed for communism

2020-11-17 20:51:22 UTC  

eg your family is a commune

2020-11-17 20:51:34 UTC  

is the state in your family?

2020-11-17 20:51:38 UTC  

But you can't have wide spread communism

2020-11-17 20:51:48 UTC  

communes should be decentralized

2020-11-17 20:52:14 UTC  

I see your point but it still necessarily isn't communism

2020-11-17 20:52:35 UTC  

Communism must have a state.

2020-11-17 20:52:37 UTC  

anarchism was first used to describe libertarian socialism

2020-11-17 20:53:01 UTC  

But still communism must have a state

2020-11-17 20:53:09 UTC  

Karl Marx would agree

2020-11-17 20:53:16 UTC  

Anyway I have to go

2020-11-17 20:53:40 UTC  

karl marx isn't the founder of ancom

2020-11-17 20:53:46 UTC  

it's peter kropotkin

2020-11-17 20:53:58 UTC  

proudhon criticized marx

2020-11-17 20:59:35 UTC  

I know this

2020-11-17 21:00:08 UTC  

My point was to have true socialism or communism you must have a state

2020-11-18 02:13:36 UTC  

This is the second leftist I found in this server today <:benshapirolasereyes:736783642205880320>

2020-11-18 02:14:07 UTC  

Been subbed to Zeducation for a while now, only just decided to join the Discord today

2020-11-18 02:14:23 UTC  

Was a conservative before a lefty

2020-11-18 02:15:10 UTC  

What went wrong

2020-11-18 02:15:51 UTC  

I learned more

2020-11-18 02:17:24 UTC  

Gained more empathy, experience, learned more about history, sociology, etc. Went from calling Bernie Sanders a radical left commie in 2013 to saying he's a moderate leftist today

2020-11-18 02:17:42 UTC  

Politics is changing.

2020-11-18 02:18:33 UTC  

Wdym

2020-11-18 02:18:44 UTC  

I mean I agree

2020-11-18 02:18:53 UTC  

But we probably think for different reasons

2020-11-18 02:21:37 UTC  

You've arrived to this server knowing that this is right wing. Please make sure to follow the rules and do not cause a stir within the server.

2020-11-18 02:21:51 UTC  

^

2020-11-18 02:38:32 UTC  

👍

2020-11-18 02:44:46 UTC  

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2020-11-18 03:39:02 UTC  

@Tanner#9999 honestly if you don’t intend on calling us racist I don’t see why you shouldn’t debate us

2020-11-18 04:17:20 UTC  

are you mutualist?