Linux is perfectly capable of running proprietary software

Not a prerequisite

well yes

ClamAV is open source and uses open signature databases.

but no open source program would bundle proprietary crapware

or open source OS

I agree it's mainly crapware. But oss OS' do bundle proprietary software and driver's. As long as they properly attribute and the closed software package allows it. Perfect example is Ubuntu will prompt the user at install whether they want to include 3rd party proprietary software like mp3 libs

But again I've never seen a Linux distro with built in av. There are hundreds tho so I'm sure there is one but I bet their goal and mission statement is to cater to "new" Linux users and include it for a false sense of security

thats true

AV rarely provides real security

unless we are talking about enterprise shit like sophos

real security comes from not being a fucking idiot

Or for those that dual boot with windows and may use WINE.

My problem with sentiment like that is that malware does not necessarily need you to be stupid, only somebody else on your network to be stupid or you not keeping software up to date. That or for there to be a zero day that you are unaware of. People seem to think of only traditional viruses while modern attacks use a variety of malicious programs that can propagate in other ways.

I've heard Malwarebytes has gone down a bit from being as good as it used to be, but then I now some people who don't think so, so <:Shrug:365198052631379978>

And that was like 6 months ago I head that, idk about now

Most companies I've been at block interlan traffic. Since I'm in r&d and make internet connected devices I need freedom to operate and control my own network so they always place me in a sandboxed network that can't propogate out

I haven't had a personal system with Windows for 4 years so it very well may not be as good as it used to be.

Ah

When you get to a company you'll be forced to change

For hr and business facing apps

I did say personal system, not that I haven't worked at companies with a provided Windows computer. However on those I don't install my own software.

Ahh true true

I wonder how often dual booting or even wine is used in commercial. I know with students it's popular since you're usually limited in resources and can't just buy a new dedicated box but in the corporate world you just say hey I need a Linux box I'm not dual booting that and they say ok. Or just spin up a VM and avoid compatibility headaches with wine

I'm not sure how common it is, but I've known people at work that had dual booted Windows and a Linux. It's mainly because many companies are cheap and will give you one laptop and you have to work with what you have.

hmm

I am actually going to 'dual boot' soon

but not exactly dual booting

rather, arch + a kvm windows with gpu passthrough for gaming

cuz I cant develop/use windows as my daily driver

Maybe I've just been lucky to work for companies that will provide what I want as long as it's justified

and sitting in a queue waiting for a game is useless and I could use that time on my main system doing something else

I've been meaning to do a setup like that for years, but my secondary GPU is nvidia so it's a pain to do that.

same

I have one gpu rn

a 1050ti

im gonna buy another gpu

and sell the 1050ti

and buy a cheap amd card for my linux system

1050ti is too old for modern gaming anwyays

Yeah I used to run only Linux like all the other purists but taking compatibility is unparalleled with Windows so run it primarily for gaming