And don't get me started with their weaponry, that is a shame far beyond any shame

Die Deutsch habe rot Hose

i dont know what the plural for pants is yet

poland had tanks that were batter then the panzer at the beiging of the war, you learn a lot what you defeat a full scale bolshivek invasion

Not really

Frankly most of Polands equipment were imported from somewhere else

And whatever tanks they had operated on the same philosophy of ww1 light tanks

Which were god awful compared to panzers

The polish tanks circa 1939 were built by polish engineers as an upgrade of the current french tank of the time. this model tank was faster, better armed, and better armored than the Panzer 1. The problem was the Wermacht had thousands and Poland had 40.

The French's upgraded Renaults were frankly the same, but their issue was they were heavily cramped which made response times to enemy units slower

Panzer 2's on the otherhand, while they had less armor, had better operationality due to the more space inside the chasse and turret which allowed for more rapid response to the enemy

And with an automatic 20mm cannon, they could make short work of opposing light and medium armor

we're talking Panzer 1's first off and second, whoever made their guns don't matter they're polish, the fought the nazi's in Warsaw with fucking sticks, the held the Nazi's at Danzig for weeks and only surrendered because they ran out of bullets, they held the wermacht at Wizna for 5 days, while outnumbered 40:1, for comparision, the hot gates was 14:1.

Panzer 2's operated at the same time as Panzer 1's, and frankly were fairly similar

@SpaceDandyJoestarGG theyre the Yugoslav partisans

who absolutely wrecked the Nazis in yugoslavia

they are one of WW2's unsung heroes because they helped take pressure of the USSR and Western Front

France had better tanks, but their doctrine sucked

@A Person huh never heard of them but hey that's cool.

what was the best German tank destroyer

Per tonnage of armor and strength of their guns, yes the French AMD's and Renault's were better armed and arguably their tanks were better, however the majority of them had 1 major flaw that made them easy prey to Panzers, cramped turrets that had manual turning instead of hydrolic till they got their hands on the Sherman

also did the Germans and Japanese ever fight together?

No

But they did share a few things with each other

Tho it was mostly german arms going to Japan. like a Tiger tank

ok

As for best german TD, it would have to be the StuG

ok

Also why did tank destroyers not have turning turrets? Was it so that they could mount powerful cannons?

Not all had caseless turrets

Some American and British tank destroyers had full on turrets

ok

Like the Wolverine

ok thanks

> Per tonnage of armor and strength of their guns, yes the French AMD's and Renault's were better armed and arguably their tanks were better, however the majority of them had 1 major flaw that made them easy prey to Panzers, cramped turrets that had manual turning instead of hydrolic till they got their hands on the Sherman
@Zilla The French Somua tanks had a riveted hull that if struck directly on the rivet line, the whole tank could come apart

And if it didnt, the rivets would kill the crew of the vehicle

what a riviting conversation

Rivetted armor made for easy repairing of a tank and made it quicker to build, tho the negatives heavily outweighed the positives

Thats for if you have absolutely no consideration of the Crew but you want a lot of tanks quickly

Which during the beginning when both the British and the French quickly needed armor, stuff like the M3 Lee was a good substitute

M3 was a meh in my opinion