neither

ruger 10/22 takedown model, and a basic cleaning kit.

carry three 500 round blocks of ammo wrapped in plastic

I am probably going to have to agree, but i don't want to xD it seems like everyone has a 10/22

If doing ammo for survival, I'd recommend ammo cans, they are pretty water proof as long as the seal is good.

not only that

the amount 22 you can carry

is ridiculous

Very tru

I use a waterproof bag

you can keep YEARS worth of ammo in that

kill rabbits, and such

and save ammo using snares

right. A good rifle also requires far less maintenance than a bow ime.

However for long term survival, if you aren't worrying about looters, I'd say bow. Ammo is a finite supply while arrows can be reused and repaired.

However in SHTF where most people live, I want a gun.

and it's takedown, it fits in the same waterproff bag as the ammo.

oh yea

definitely a bow is good

but im saying early

like first year or two

a ruger 10/22 would be extremely useful

ye, agreed. I don't want to be caught without a gun in a SHTF scenario.

and can easily be silenced with an adaption, then you just steal an oil filter off a broken down car.

right. you also have the option of 22kalibre if you can get really close to your game

which is hella quite

and if shit really gets bad you're out of ammo, the 22 takedown model has a hollow stock

you can fit a knife in there

some fishing line

a hook

and some tinder

also another thing GET A BIKE

you can buy a backpack folding bike

it fits in a bag folded

might come in handy to story in a car or something, but I doubt it's worth its weight if your in the mountains.

even just a REGULAR bike

if you're on flat terrain it can double your speed

and save time

or heck a longboard

just anything wheel that will give you a speed advantage