“Whats it like to take a human life?”
“I wouldnt know, ive only ever killed communists”

seems a bit anemic, but I bet this might might be nice option for a bug out/bug in hunting gun, considering its concealable, quite, and cheap to feed (could even cast your own pellets if shtf). idk though, I want something a bit hotter in terms of velocity. :/

> seems a bit anemic, but I bet this might might be nice option for a bug out/bug in hunting gun, considering its concealable, quite, and cheap to feed (could even cast your own pellets if shtf). idk though, I want something a bit hotter in terms of velocity. :/
@sixfivebyfiftyfive Not enough power for hunting, there are PCP varieties that have more punch.

^ye that's what I am thinking. my only hesitation on pcps is you have to carry a pump if you bug out, so that is probably a no-go. perfectly fine for staying home though

A small bicycle pump is sufficient and portable. Takes a bit to reach optimum pressure but doable in SHTF a event.

I own two PCP rifles, one in .22 cal and one in .357. "Cans" can reduce audible report on the .357 to negligible decibels, and still carry enough energy to drop a feral pig. Could probably drop a deer but I've never tried. As for portable, if you don't already own a bug-out domicile it might be too late. Once it hits the fan, I'm not going anywhere, and anyone coming here has made a serious tactical error.

that's how I feel about it, in terms of bug out philosophy. The only place I would realistically would consider "bugging-out" too would be my Papa's place in TX too make sure he is safe. otherwise, I am sticking around my current place to defend my family and keep food on the table if need be. I'll have to give some thought to a big bore pcp. Its not something I have considered adding to my cache yet, but you raise a good point about harvesting larger game.

Airforce Texan SS

nice. can that me broken down and concealed in a large bag?

If I need to go hunting in shtf scenario, i dont want people knowing I have food or a way to procure food

The tank and scope is removable and the can CAN be removed, but reassembly is slow so its not a quick response weapon if broken down. You can buy a second tank to extend your hunting time. Mines a .357 cal but you can get it in .45 and .30. The .357 will accurately send a 145 gr pellet at just of 1,000fps, and placed properly that'll drop a hog nicely. It might adjust the attitude of nosey people as well. Requires no background check or special licensing.

airgundepot.com

nice.

I am not too concerned with quick response. Idealy, I would like to be able to set up or break down in about 30 seconds or less, but as long as I can get to my hunting grounds (on foot or otherwise) and back without every lib/nosy dick I pass looking over their shoulder, I feel pretty good about it. The philosophy I am sort of getting at is just that I have something quiet that I can procure food with in a worst case scenario. This may just be me, but in my mind, I would probably take my 30-30 or a 22lr and remove the stock/barrel/receiver halfs if I really needed something with a rapid response time. ofc, that would sacrifice stealth. :/

idk, i am just thinking

I still like the idea of a good compound bow for shtf. not the most compact, but easy enough to conceal in some cases, rapid response, rapid follow up shots, versatility in terms of game that can be taken, etc.

Think crossbow instead of standard compound, most will collapse to a fairly small size and take just a few seconds to make ready, quieter than the PCP rifles by far. I have two Barnetts that are several years old and proven game getters, and I much prefer them to the standard bows I own. When I have nothing better to do I manufacture bolts for them (cheaper than buying). For a couple hundred and a stamp fee you can use a suppressor on a .22lr and its pretty quiet, the CAN can be swapped between a handgun and rifle, on the handgun for that rapid response scene and to the rifle for a quiet hunt.

If you go with bows of any kind, and firearms as well, make sure you acquire replacement parts to build at least two replacements. You don't know how long you will need to use them. Gee this discussion might belong in the prepping channel.

wonder if the moderators can move it??

Air rifles in general are under appreciated for hunting or other applications.. thanks for that info BAR

Is this the right channel?

Didn't know if this belonged here or in memes

tell me that's real, I want a box

this

this is perfect

I would like to shoot a comee with doge ammo

does anyone remember that gun fail clip where this russian dude had some weird bolt action rifle and it did a hangfire and went off like 5 seconds later?

well i found it

and its not a rifle

its apparently a shotgun

The TOZ-106, a russian short barrel 20 gauge shotgun

@Aperfectghost
You are quite welcome. Several years ago as the early PCP started to make headway in the market I started looking at their ability to take game. I was part of an annual charity hog hunt in west Texas from 2004 thru last year and in 2010 brought a borrowed .50cal PCP to the hunt and took three boars with that rifle, two of them over 350lbs. Because I was concerned over the lethality of the 350gr hollow point pellets, I did not take any of them over about 20 yards. None of them moved more than 5 yards from point of impact. I was sold on the ability of the weapon to take game. Since then, I've purchased my own and have taken dozens of pigs. Now because I'm a bad shot I still keep them close and avoid any shot longer than 25-30 yards.

For a SHTF survival tool, its nearly perfect, it's a LOT louder than you would think for an air-rifle, so its not stealthy. But ammo can be cast from any bulk metal you have the ability to melt, lead, brass, copper and air is free as long as you have a pump.

Interesting note; Lewis and Clark had one as they headed for Oregon.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/gun-was-secret-weapon-lewis-and-clark-expedition-45427

@ThiccSpicyGenderRevealParty
Hang fire can be a problem, and is an astounding reason to buy quality ammo. Had some off brand 9mm (Russian) that had 2 hang-fires out of 25 rounds. When it happens you have to just stand there for a long time pointing the weapon down-range waiting for the BANG, or lay it on the bench with a sandbag on it. When it does go off, you can wet yerself.

Ah yes one of my fav history moments involving Air Rifles.

Great bit of Air rifle coolness in that paragraph

*looks at 88mm casually sitting there*

hmm

This has something to do w hangfire....I live near a CW battlefield, the reenactors where test charging the field cannons...one of them had a failure because of the fuse but went off a few seconds later

Got some bigger mags comming