Message from @Osha19

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2020-10-28 00:23:54 UTC  

I'm in it cause it's funny to go into music and play "Burn your crosses" and other metal songs

2020-10-28 00:23:58 UTC  

I would argue that the 'primary denominations' would better fit the description or Sect

2020-10-28 00:24:25 UTC  

but maybe thats just the protestant pov

2020-10-28 00:25:29 UTC  

I'm brought up under a Catholic taught mother and a Protestant father. I affiliate myself with the Protestant Denomination. But my parents say we are a non-denominational christian family.

2020-10-28 00:25:41 UTC  

I dunno, I'm a Methodist so we tend to be the forgotten child of the bunch

2020-10-28 00:25:58 UTC  

Not in the UK they arent

2020-10-28 00:26:02 UTC  

There are other secondary denominations more forgotten, but we're still forgotten compared to many others

2020-10-28 00:26:07 UTC  

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/denomination @_Jacob here is the official dictionary website with the definition

2020-10-28 00:26:35 UTC  

I say we're forgotten because in that server there's no Methodist role, so I don't have a belief role

2020-10-28 00:29:39 UTC  

I know certain denominations completely denounce LGBTQ+ members. More so Gay and Lesbians. While I am brought up under the teaching of some of the OT (mother). I do feel rejecting LGBTQ+ members is not the wisest thing. I won't partake in those actions, but I won't denounce everyone in the community. I will show them the love of Jesus Christ like the bible says.

2020-10-28 00:29:55 UTC  

No one is perfect, and it is not our place to judge others. The role of judge is left to God himself

2020-10-28 00:31:02 UTC  

I don't believe the family dynamic works with LGBTQ+, but if you wanna screw a guy as a girl I won't agree with it, but I won't stop you(If it's consentual)

2020-10-28 00:31:11 UTC  

That's how I have been taught and my understanding of it that is. I've spoken to others about it and most tend to agree with me.

2020-10-28 00:31:36 UTC  

> I don't believe the family dynamic works with LGBTQ+, but if you wanna screw a guy as a girl I won't agree with it, but I won't stop you(If it's consentual)
@Deleted User ofc. Same with me.

2020-10-28 00:39:55 UTC  

> I will show them the love of Jesus Christ like the bible says.
@Osha19 I think there's a balance between speaking Truth, and speaking Love.
Some people wield the Truth as if its a spiked club, bitter and hateful. But others go after love and end up embracing not just sinners, but the sin itself. Christians, imo, need to be better at speaking Truth, in Love, not just one or the other

2020-10-28 00:54:06 UTC  

@Osha19 and, the comma denotes two seperate ideas, a) christianity is ok by my and b) hey look at this cool thing the pope did

2020-10-28 00:55:10 UTC  

@Osha19 I know certain denominations completely denounce LGBTQ+ members. More so Gay and Lesbians. While I am brought up under the teaching of some of the OT (mother). I do feel rejecting LGBTQ+ members is not the wisest thing. I won't partake in those actions, but I won't denounce everyone in the community. I will show them the love of Jesus Christ like the bible says.
No one is perfect, and it is not our place to judge others. The role of judge is left to God himself

2020-10-28 00:55:14 UTC  

-amen

2020-10-28 00:57:16 UTC  

@_Jacob the lines sighted in the bible against gay say not that being gay is a sin but having sex is, which, granted made sense back then, they had no lube/disinfected/medicine/condoms. I think the clause was added so nobody had to have stds

2020-10-28 01:04:30 UTC  

uh,

2020-10-28 01:04:44 UTC  

no. It is just wrong in our religion. Man was not made for Man.

2020-10-28 01:04:55 UTC  

Man was made for Woman and vice versa

2020-10-28 01:05:26 UTC  

there are no underlying reasons. its a simple plain as day reason. God created Man for Woman and Woman for Man.

2020-10-28 01:07:37 UTC  

e=the only lines in the bilble against gays is explicitly against their lustful acts

2020-10-28 01:07:54 UTC  

@chaz We can agree that the verses refer to the activity itself rather than the attraction, however homosexual activity was incredibly common in Ancient Rome, even Emperor Nero was married to two men. The verses relating to homosexuality are not cultural, and make up part of the moral law in Leviticus. The verses in First Timothy and Romans etc also call it dishonourable and immoral.
Sex is part of the sacrament of marriage, and the Bible is very clear that marriage should be between man and wife, and that sex should only be part of marriage.

2020-10-28 01:09:48 UTC  

but the bible, if you read the old hebrew, doesn't actually gender adam and eve, food for though.

2020-10-28 01:10:17 UTC  

...

2020-10-28 01:10:22 UTC  

It does

2020-10-28 01:10:38 UTC  

wanna know my sources?

2020-10-28 01:10:58 UTC  

I also don't see what that has to do with the current discussion?

2020-10-28 01:11:03 UTC  

Adam was the first Man and Eve was the first Woman

2020-10-28 01:11:39 UTC  

if they had no genders. than why did the books later in the bible refer to Adam and Eve being male and female in said order.

2020-10-28 01:11:51 UTC  

wait this may be a stupid question but

2020-10-28 01:11:59 UTC  

did everyone come from adam and eve?

2020-10-28 01:12:14 UTC  

Technically yes

2020-10-28 01:12:24 UTC  

so technically everyone is incest?

2020-10-28 01:12:36 UTC  

and the issues with inter-family marriage weren't a think back then. (sex issues, etc.)

2020-10-28 01:13:00 UTC  

We are all brothers and sisters in Christ. so It shouldn

2020-10-28 01:13:17 UTC  

shouldn't matter about the technicalities.

2020-10-28 01:13:24 UTC  

about the first Man and Woman

2020-10-28 01:13:40 UTC  

plus, everything was holy and god made new genes for all the children?