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THAT'S NOT TRUE!!!

Does the Bible kinda confirm magic is real??

Not as you are asking about. It describes rebellion as witchcraft in the new testament. In the old testament soothsaying (asking for wisdom from the dead) is outlawed.

Most magicians (pharaoh's court magicians) practiced soothsaying and the art of deception to perform feats of "magic."

There are no magicians throwing fireballs or shooting lightning as far as my knowledge and understanding goes.

Note: I have not read, nor am I not referencing, the apocrypha (false books), and most of the time people say the Bible confirms magic, they are referring to these books.

*The apocrypha are written by authors who either lie about their identity , have dates origin that contradict their own timeline, or contradict the cannon scripture.

Also, events such as the parting of the Red Sea, fire from the sky, a staff turned into a snake and then back to a staff, are done by God, just through the person preforming the action.

Ok, Thanks.

> Does the Bible kinda confirm magic is real??
@Flint Ansdeal
Yes

What do you mean by it though?

But not the magic of today

Magic today is mostly illusion

There is such a thing in the migration period of England that is wands and staffs inscribed with futhork runes, believed with the ability to cast spells and alter people’s free will, I wander if this magic did exist but was done away with because it was sin...

Same with the Scandinavian countries and even today remote places that still haven’t heard god.

So may it have once existed? In the Bible they mention god commanding the people to do away with amulets and such.

Speaking of Scandinavian countries, we need to make Sweden great again, they were great when they were one of the leaders of Protestantism, now they're in a really bad spot

Hmm. I don’t pay much attention to Sweden right now, what kind of a bad spot?

Last I knew they were the rape capital of the world

Huh. I never would have guessed that.

This would be after they took in a bunch of Middle Eastern refugees, and now there's a movement among those refugees to pretty much flip Sweden upside down

Upside down?

I'm finding what I think I remember

Ok

I can't find what I thought I saw, but it was in arabic, saying something along the lines of "Death to the Swedes"

Oh, not good

This is the closest I could find, but this is targetting Jews
https://www.timesofisrael.com/facing-death-chants-and-hate-crimes-swedens-jews-live-in-a-climate-of-fear/

Ok, what I really don’t understand is why do people hate Jews so much? It seems extremists on all sides hate them.

I feel bad for them, but god did tell them that they will be hated, and they will have to fight to keep what God gave them.

Yeah, the Jews seem like nice people, I don't get the hate for them.

They are nice, at least the ones I know.

But yeah, the top left hates them, given their treatment by the Soviets, the Nazis hated them, the Muslims hate them, anyone else?

I hate to even have to bring up THEESE people but ‘atheists’ as they call themselves seem to hate every religion.

Well yeah, that's just in their nature, although I've met some who don't mind if you are religious

The ones I know like to yell out terrible things and lies and sin at any opportunity.

But that’s not really our problem, they seem to far out for me to reach, but maybe someone else could.

Yeah, you have the extremists in every group, whether the extrimists are a large portion or a small portion of the group is up to the members of the group

Well said

I have to go, so I will not be able to continue the conversation right now.

Thanks for the discussion!

yup, any time!

Most atheists don't have the balls to say their usual shit in the face of Muslims like they do to Jews or Christians.

I wonder why.

Yeah look what happened to the French teacher

Oh, and while I was looking for the stuff in Sweden, I came across an article where a kid wasn't allowed to wear a cross for pictures, but muslim students could wear their religious apparel