Message from @DeButcher
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@DeButcher I'm just getting to your message to me from yesterday. I don't know what you are talking about "he had you in the first half, lol". I don't know about you, but I am a Bible-believing, born-again Christian. Is that the case with you? If so, your statement that it's always good to get informed about other religions is not an advisable thing to do for Christians. Jer. 10:2a says, "Learn not the way of the heathen". In Exo. 23:13 God forbid the Jews of even mentioning the name of the pagan idol gods, along with forbidding them from having the idol gods (20:3-5). Paul made no comparative religion speech when he spoke to the Athenians on Mars' Hill in Acts 17; instead, he chided them for their vain attempts at knowing the one true God, the God of the Bible, while still giving credence to a plethora of false gods, telling them in v. 22, "I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious." Now, we are commanded to "be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" (1 Pet. 3:15), and, Jude 3, "ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." But, I don't see that as a charge to study out all religions. Instead, I have a duty simply to preach the Gospel (Mk. 16:15), and preach the word of God (2 Tim. 4:2). It is: study out the word of God (2 Tim. 2:15), not: study out unbiblical religions.
@DrStrange77 I'm just getting to your message from yesterday. No need to be sorry about how I feel. I am just taking what the Bible says and applying it to the situation, and seeing that Mormonism violates the clear and explicit command there in Gal. 1, seeing therefore it is not of God. No hard feelings or anything, I am just applying it and finding that Mormonism comes up wanting. The Bible is the sole authority for faith and practice--that was the keynote to the Protestant Reformation as well as the principle through the ages back to the beginning of Christianity of all Bible-believing Christians. When the last book of Revelation was penned down through John, God sealed His whole book of revelation, not just that from John, but the Bible overall with this in 22:18-19, "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Therefore, any and all additions to the revelation completed then are illegitimate and not of God. It's too bad that you think Mormonism is legitimate, but if you can see and understand what God was saying in Gal. 1 and Rev. 22 you should be consistent and realize Mormonism is not of God.
@DannyNC1 Satan brought 200 Angels who thought the women of Earth We're beautiful. They had children with women and these children were the Giants of great renown
This is in the times when men begin to multiply over the Earth
What does that have to do with anything?
I'm trying to explain to you why it's not
I said nothing about it--you must have confused me with someone else.
Yep, no problem
I don't know how I got history from Theory I just woke up man lol just having my first cup of coffee
@DannyNC1 what is your opinion on the Book of Enoch do you take it for truth or do you think it's false
Those wer the fallen angels children that they worshipped.
Ephesians 6:12
King James Version
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
@ARCADEIUS No, I do not consider it to be authentic. The only message from him that would be authentic that has lasted to this time is in Jude 14-15 and possibly verse 16 also, though that may just be Jude's commentary on the statement of Enoch. There are reasons why books of the Bible are considered authentic and why others are not. One of the prime factors is that nowhere in the 66 books is it mentioned that Enoch wrote a book, or that someone wrote a book of his message. He is only referred to in Gen. 5, the genealogy of Luke 3, Heb. 11:5 as a testimony of faith, and then in Jude. Nothing else. Regarding the timeframe you are trying to focus on, from Genesis 6, I recommend you watch these two helpful videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxoWpUCRnIk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u71OB0LTiM
Fyi that statement is a meme if you didnt know
@DeButcher Okay, sorry, it was a peculiar statement to me
nope, didn't know it
do you have it on hand?
Can i post it here?
Should be able to or just DM it to me
Ok better idea
@DannyNC1 "Mormonism"? Well, first we don't go by Mormons and second, we are Christians... Idk why we wouldn't be. We believe in the same God as you, we believe in the bible, we believe there is life after death, we believe there is a heaven and a hell, and more.
There are many differences in what most christians believe and what is stated in the mormon church
I should know
Yes I'm sure there are.
I am not a mormon. I went to a mormon church every other weekend with my dad. Went to a non-denominational church with my mom. There are many things that don't add up to me that are taught in the mormon church.
Could you tell me a few? I can try my best to answer what doesn't make sense.
One) our souls are in heaven before we are born.
Two) when we die, husband and their wives become deities of their own planet
Three) the first prophet saw God and Jesus. Why did his face not shine brightly like when Moses saw God's back?
Four) why would Joseph Smith not allow others to see the tablets?
Ok, so for 1. I did not know that's not what most Christians believe lol. And I really have nothing to say on that since it's just what we believe...
2. That is not a Gospel truth to us. It is just that some members believe that but that is not a doctrine belief.
3. I'm not sure about this... I didn't know that Moses' face shined brightly? That's news to me lol.
4. Joseph Smith did not let others see the plates because God told him not to because they were sacred. He did actually show eight people. three people were showed the plates by an angel. They have written their testimony in doing so. Joseph was also not allowed to show others the plates because the more people they showed the more danger they would be in because after all, they were gold. Even without showing a ton of people they were still in danger and that was just from word of mouth. They had already had their house pillaged a couple of times when mobs were looking for the plates.