Message from @phil55
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The real truth behind the Gospel is not that we can accept Jesus into our lives, but that he's already accepted us into his.
Nothing you could ever do would earn your way to Heaven, just like the rest of us. That's why Jesus came down and paid the debt we never could
No matter who we are or what we do
There is nothing we could ever do to make up for our sins. Only way to heaven is to live a perfect life (only Jesus has ever done it but it's still an option) or believe in Jesus and have him take our punishment on the cross.
woah what nothing you can do?
I don’t want to put that burden on someone else. My fate is in my hands, why should I let someone else take the fall for my faults?
Because that's why he came.
Jesus asked God the Father to forgive the very people that were killing Him as He did
oh i didn't finish ur message my bad lol
Because he wants you to be with him
Jesus freely choose to and is willing to if you only believe.
He doesn't want to see anyone go to Hell.
Because of a similar reason that parents would take a bullet for their child
Or a person would give their life to protect their sibling.
This is actually very emotion eliciting for me as I’ve struggled with religion for years now so I’m happy to be talking about this with y’all
God doesn't want anyone to go to hell but he's also just which means anyone who sins must be punished. Jesus died to create a second option by taking our sin upon himself freely
No problem
Idk if Christianity is really for me but I suppose I need to do more research into the better side rather than accepting the bad as the only side
When you pray and ask for forgiveness, you don't need to be specific.
No one can make you believe in Jesus, it's something only you can do.
@Draconem_Dominus what you experienced was not what Jesus called us to do. We aren't here to judge others, because we're all broken, we're all bad. We're just here to spread the word of God, and love one another.
Think of it like this: How could perfect and just judge (God) allow evil to come into Heaven? That wouldn't be just. But He loves us so much, that he made a way so that we still could.
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
Matthew 7:7-8 NKJV
Jesus carried the weight of so much sin that even God had to turn his back on him
Yes, there's hypocrites, false teachers, and ones who claim to Christian but are not. But that won't change what God did for you.
Those people will be judged accordingly when the time comes.
But Jesus didn't die for **us**. He died for **you**. Not all of us as a whole, but personally.
Oh
That’s an interesting way of putting it
I’ve never heard it worded that way before
I guess I really didn’t see much of a good side of Christianity :/
Though I shouldn’t have accepted that as the only side
He carried every sin that you ever have committed or ever will committed so you have the possibility to join him in Heaven.
See, all these different branches of Catholicism and Christianity are confusing, and some of them are ridiculous, all you need is the Bible. The Bible is the only truth in this world.
Because the Bible is God's word
I also thought you were only supposed to follow the New Testament, as that is Jesus and his story and word and his way
God loves you even when you sin, even when you turn from Him.
He loves you so much that Jesus, Son of God, perfect and in Heaven, came down to a sinful world, to be mocked, spit on, beaten, whipped, made to carry His own execution device to the execution location, to be hung on the cross for hours and die.
For **you**
Yes, we are.
Belief in Jesus to forgive your sins is the important part, everything else that differentiates the denominations is secondary.
But we use the Old Testament to learn from the mistakes of the past.
Oh ok
That’s interesting
There are thing from the Old Testament that we follow like the Ten Commandments