Message from @Smash Boy

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2020-11-21 17:57:38 UTC  

I mean we’re all sinners no matter what.

2020-11-21 17:58:07 UTC  

Jesus in the Sermon on the Mount handled about lust in the heart, showing it is equally as much of a sin as the act itself. But, like Rom. 3:23 shows, we are all sinners regardless.

2020-11-21 17:59:34 UTC  

I know someone who doesn't do the act but has temptation.

2020-11-21 17:59:45 UTC  

I think i remember reading about how god sees sin equally, and equally hates it.

2020-11-21 17:59:58 UTC  

These folks need prayer and patient witnessing to them. There is a chance that they can come to God in salvation since Paul explained even people in Corinth had been homosexuals, but, 1 Cor. 6:11, "And such were some of you..." They got saved and turned from that.

2020-11-21 18:00:29 UTC  

Me as a man, I’m tempted all the time with lust. Not acting on that lust is the hard part

2020-11-21 18:01:26 UTC  

There are actually some things that would qualify to Him as being abominations, and they are some things we don't expect, though homosexuality as I explained is one of those. Prov. 6:16-19 shows seven things that are an abomination to Him, and lying is twice on the list.

2020-11-21 18:01:31 UTC  
2020-11-21 18:01:53 UTC  

All sin is bad because it separates us from a relationship with God. One sin or a million sins, same result

2020-11-21 18:02:27 UTC  

That’s why we have to keep a short accounts with god and ask for forgiveness often

2020-11-21 18:02:29 UTC  

@DannyNC1 hey off topic but do you know the 3 or 4 words of love in greek. I don't remember. I know one is agape

2020-11-21 18:02:31 UTC  

@Milkgamer55 If you're a red-blooded male that is breathing, I think we all have a problem with it.

2020-11-21 18:02:50 UTC  

Yes that is true

2020-11-21 18:03:21 UTC  

Yes, but it really doesn't matter because they are used interchangeably in the Bible--the two main ones are agape and phileo. They aren't different types which can be proven from the text. Many people get that mistaken.

2020-11-21 18:03:27 UTC  

Imagine believing biblical love means I must affirm and accept your every degenerate ways of life.

2020-11-21 18:04:08 UTC  

Yes and the other is about sexual love and there also another too.

2020-11-21 18:04:13 UTC  

Yeah, somehow people think the Biblical love means that, but don't realize that biblical love is preaching the Gospel to them that they need to be saved before it's too late--that involves calling out sin.

2020-11-21 18:04:29 UTC  

The sexual love is not in the Greek text.

2020-11-21 18:04:37 UTC  

Biblical joy is an amazing feeling.

2020-11-21 18:04:57 UTC  

No but Greek have 4 different words for love

2020-11-21 18:05:00 UTC  

The love God teaches and understood by the biblical authors is to bring the greatest good to one individual or group, irrespective of how they feel. It's not something the biblical authors would conceive that includes saying "I am okay that you feel molesting children is ok".

2020-11-21 18:05:07 UTC  

Not talking about the bible

2020-11-21 18:05:08 UTC  

@Milkgamer55 It's the only joy that's really, fully satisfying, because it's joy in the Lord.

2020-11-21 18:05:13 UTC  

Just greek language

2020-11-21 18:05:27 UTC  

The love God taught is *agape*.

2020-11-21 18:05:35 UTC  

Not storge nor eros.

2020-11-21 18:05:54 UTC  

@Smash Boy There you go--phileo too.

2020-11-21 18:05:59 UTC  

That means even a psychopath can love in the agape sense. Because love is something you *do* not feel.

2020-11-21 18:06:07 UTC  

What is storge

2020-11-21 18:06:27 UTC  

Friendship?

2020-11-21 18:06:31 UTC  

Storge love is the love you typically feel towards your animal or your stuff.

2020-11-21 18:06:51 UTC  

Phileos is the love you feel towards your closest friends and family members.

2020-11-21 18:07:04 UTC  

Ok thanks for clearing that up

2020-11-21 18:07:33 UTC  

Eros is the love you feel and reciprocate towards your spouse, and it's more sexual in nature. Agape is not a feeling but an action you are dutiful to exemplify.

2020-11-21 18:08:44 UTC  

So these people tauting the "God loves everyone" really don't understand the love the Biblical authors and Jesus meant. They mislead the audience to their own peril.

2020-11-21 18:09:18 UTC  

@Smash Boy I know you say that about a difference between agape and phileo as you explain it, but that is a common misconception. If you actually look at some aspects about its use in the NT Greek text, you see that they are used interchangeably, and thus direct synonyms. Otherwise there are big problems that develop.

2020-11-21 18:09:59 UTC  

No, it's actually agape, CS Lewis even acknowledges when he talks about the four loves.

2020-11-21 18:10:09 UTC  

Hang on I'll link you to an article about it.

2020-11-21 18:10:44 UTC  

It doesn't matter what CS Lewis said about it when I'm telling you about the Bible's use which can be seen from patient study on one's own.

2020-11-21 18:12:36 UTC  

If you don't believe me, I can point out some things that will demonstrate why that's the case.