Message from @Smash Boy
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The sexual love is not in the Greek text.
Biblical joy is an amazing feeling.
No but Greek have 4 different words for love
The love God teaches and understood by the biblical authors is to bring the greatest good to one individual or group, irrespective of how they feel. It's not something the biblical authors would conceive that includes saying "I am okay that you feel molesting children is ok".
Not talking about the bible
@Milkgamer55 It's the only joy that's really, fully satisfying, because it's joy in the Lord.
Just greek language
The love God taught is *agape*.
Not storge nor eros.
@Smash Boy There you go--phileo too.
That means even a psychopath can love in the agape sense. Because love is something you *do* not feel.
What is storge
Friendship?
Storge love is the love you typically feel towards your animal or your stuff.
Phileos is the love you feel towards your closest friends and family members.
Ok thanks for clearing that up
Eros is the love you feel and reciprocate towards your spouse, and it's more sexual in nature. Agape is not a feeling but an action you are dutiful to exemplify.
So these people tauting the "God loves everyone" really don't understand the love the Biblical authors and Jesus meant. They mislead the audience to their own peril.
@Smash Boy I know you say that about a difference between agape and phileo as you explain it, but that is a common misconception. If you actually look at some aspects about its use in the NT Greek text, you see that they are used interchangeably, and thus direct synonyms. Otherwise there are big problems that develop.
No, it's actually agape, CS Lewis even acknowledges when he talks about the four loves.
It doesn't matter what CS Lewis said about it when I'm telling you about the Bible's use which can be seen from patient study on one's own.
If you don't believe me, I can point out some things that will demonstrate why that's the case.
That's the Greek version of Mathew 19:19.
I'm not going to refer to that. Don't get ahead of yourself.
Spoofy text confirmed
I literally showed you that the word love in those passages is the one referred to as Agape in context and the one taught by Jesus as most important.
I will literally show you that agape and phileo in how the Bible uses them are equal. They must be equal or there will be theological and other problems that will result.
Equal in what sense?
Equal as direct synonyms, no difference in meaning
@Milkgamer55 when two of smartest kid in class have different answers. 😂
That is false, but show me where exactly are they synonyms and furthermore, how exactly do they present theological problems if they are different?
@DeButcher That’s when showdown time happens
Prov. 18:13, "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." Like I said, don't get ahead of yourself.
I just asked you afterwards to show me.
I'm not getting ahead of myself.
Patience!
~~I am no padawan~~
Look at John 3:16 first--when God says that He loves us, it's agape, how you would think. But, then go check out John 16:27 and tell me what's there.
If it is as you say, the agape is better, higher, different than phileo, and phileo is some family or friend love, what's up with that?