Message from @Smash Boy

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2020-11-21 18:04:29 UTC  

The sexual love is not in the Greek text.

2020-11-21 18:04:37 UTC  

Biblical joy is an amazing feeling.

2020-11-21 18:04:57 UTC  

No but Greek have 4 different words for love

2020-11-21 18:05:00 UTC  

The love God teaches and understood by the biblical authors is to bring the greatest good to one individual or group, irrespective of how they feel. It's not something the biblical authors would conceive that includes saying "I am okay that you feel molesting children is ok".

2020-11-21 18:05:07 UTC  

Not talking about the bible

2020-11-21 18:05:08 UTC  

@Milkgamer55 It's the only joy that's really, fully satisfying, because it's joy in the Lord.

2020-11-21 18:05:13 UTC  

Just greek language

2020-11-21 18:05:27 UTC  

The love God taught is *agape*.

2020-11-21 18:05:35 UTC  

Not storge nor eros.

2020-11-21 18:05:54 UTC  

@Smash Boy There you go--phileo too.

2020-11-21 18:05:59 UTC  

That means even a psychopath can love in the agape sense. Because love is something you *do* not feel.

2020-11-21 18:06:07 UTC  

What is storge

2020-11-21 18:06:27 UTC  

Friendship?

2020-11-21 18:06:31 UTC  

Storge love is the love you typically feel towards your animal or your stuff.

2020-11-21 18:06:51 UTC  

Phileos is the love you feel towards your closest friends and family members.

2020-11-21 18:07:04 UTC  

Ok thanks for clearing that up

2020-11-21 18:07:33 UTC  

Eros is the love you feel and reciprocate towards your spouse, and it's more sexual in nature. Agape is not a feeling but an action you are dutiful to exemplify.

2020-11-21 18:08:44 UTC  

So these people tauting the "God loves everyone" really don't understand the love the Biblical authors and Jesus meant. They mislead the audience to their own peril.

2020-11-21 18:09:18 UTC  

@Smash Boy I know you say that about a difference between agape and phileo as you explain it, but that is a common misconception. If you actually look at some aspects about its use in the NT Greek text, you see that they are used interchangeably, and thus direct synonyms. Otherwise there are big problems that develop.

2020-11-21 18:09:59 UTC  

No, it's actually agape, CS Lewis even acknowledges when he talks about the four loves.

2020-11-21 18:10:09 UTC  

Hang on I'll link you to an article about it.

2020-11-21 18:10:44 UTC  

It doesn't matter what CS Lewis said about it when I'm telling you about the Bible's use which can be seen from patient study on one's own.

2020-11-21 18:12:36 UTC  

If you don't believe me, I can point out some things that will demonstrate why that's the case.

2020-11-21 18:13:40 UTC  

That's the Greek version of Mathew 19:19.

2020-11-21 18:14:09 UTC  

I'm not going to refer to that. Don't get ahead of yourself.

2020-11-21 18:14:18 UTC  

Spoofy text confirmed

2020-11-21 18:15:01 UTC  

I literally showed you that the word love in those passages is the one referred to as Agape in context and the one taught by Jesus as most important.

2020-11-21 18:15:53 UTC  

I will literally show you that agape and phileo in how the Bible uses them are equal. They must be equal or there will be theological and other problems that will result.

2020-11-21 18:16:26 UTC  

Equal in what sense?

2020-11-21 18:16:41 UTC  

Equal as direct synonyms, no difference in meaning

2020-11-21 18:16:49 UTC  

@Milkgamer55 when two of smartest kid in class have different answers. 😂

2020-11-21 18:17:30 UTC  

That is false, but show me where exactly are they synonyms and furthermore, how exactly do they present theological problems if they are different?

2020-11-21 18:17:44 UTC  

@DeButcher That’s when showdown time happens

2020-11-21 18:17:58 UTC  

Prov. 18:13, "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." Like I said, don't get ahead of yourself.

2020-11-21 18:19:11 UTC  

I just asked you afterwards to show me.

2020-11-21 18:19:18 UTC  

I'm not getting ahead of myself.

2020-11-21 18:19:20 UTC  

Patience!

2020-11-21 18:19:33 UTC  

~~I am no padawan~~

2020-11-21 18:19:56 UTC  

Look at John 3:16 first--when God says that He loves us, it's agape, how you would think. But, then go check out John 16:27 and tell me what's there.

2020-11-21 18:20:24 UTC  

If it is as you say, the agape is better, higher, different than phileo, and phileo is some family or friend love, what's up with that?