Message from @Smash Boy
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Not so. There's no such thing as a neutral ground. You either have a foundation or you don't. Morality can only be founded within the Christian worldview, as well as the preconditions for knowledge. Jordan Peterson can play Jungian Psychology all he wants, but it doesn't refute the thesis.
Jungian lol
What do you mean morality is a christian worldview
I have a few points I think may help:
While this first one may not be a direct, irrefutable peace of evidence, I think it’s still a good point to make:
Between Christianity and other popular religious views, Christianity is the only one that doesn’t require any works to get into Heaven. You can’t earn your way into Heaven. We get into Heaven by believing in Christ, Who paid our debt for us, that when God looks at is, He sees Jesus’ perfect record. Our sins are forgiven and forgotten, as far as the east is from the west.
For more direct evidence:
One important thing to note, is that the Apostles (all but one, which was exiled on an island) died for their faith, having gained nothing for their testimony. They would have no reason to do so unless they fully believed it was true.
The Bible is also completely consistent within itself. It does not contradict itself. Most things in it that would be considered contradictions can be explained by misunderstandings. God directly made the Bible have stories that would confound the wise.
Also, many prophesies made have and are coming true. An example is Israel becoming a nation again in recent times.
Christian Law defines morality
Oh damn
My guy posted an essay
No. I said morality *can only be based and founded* within the Christian worldview.
@CoolGuard Nice point
Nuro will probably concoct something to ignore it however
Sorry it’s a bit long. I don’t believe short replies would do the topic justice
So morality came from Christianity ?
Yes
Just like the World came from God
Its not rocket science
Not just Christianity, the Judeo-Christian God and only that God only.
Autocorrect wtf
I dont agree. I feel like you are going down a toxic conversation though corn.
Hey hey, no need to accuse as such
Define morality @Nuro and @Smash Boy
I dont agree so im concocting some stuff, aye?
gotcha
You've shown no compromise or understanding of our arguments
In a debate stretched across 3 hours
blocking you corn
LOL
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i'll talk to others who want a conversation
grow up
That which corresponds to the nature and thoughts of God and from which all ethical values help flourish society and community.
Im not the one blocking people I don't need to grow shit
Do you agree @Nuro to above statement made by @Smash Boy
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@Nuro you can feel free to pm me if you don’t want get interruptions
Morality is a method of being that produces results that are considered favorable for the livelihoods of individuals , but also for that of the society as well.
Oh yes isolate him from people who might disagree with him
Its generally considered beneficial to not kill eachother . Not because christianity says dont do it.
if you understand fundamentally why not killing someone is better. You can make an educated decision.
The issue with ridding the the moral tales in religious texts( in this case Christianity) of divinity,is that it removes the "ought" from our responsibilities. What I mean by that, is that the duty of a father to fight and in some cases die for his family is rooted (in the Christian sense) is displayed in Christ(the groom) dying for his bride(the church). This "duty" of men to fight, kill, and die for others is seen as a great burden, and a greater sacrifice. And we are expected to *want* to do it as it is right. Removing the Divine aspect makes it a horrendous act on par with not only have slaves that are reared up to fight, but to condition them with being content with their lot in life.