Olive tree Bible app is free and they also have free audio bibles

It’s not literally encoded into our DNA is what I meant. If by dna you meant that it comes naturally to us then you are correct

Lol

but if our freewill is not worshipping god, we're fallen in his eyes. if he's truly loving, why won't he accept us exploring other concepts?

I dunno it hard to understand God, he has a plan and we don't see the full picture

my preacher told me god puts everything in the bible already 😂

Because we are not trust his ways and follow falsely human ideals and not the one true God

I think there's also an app with the voice of darth vader (james earl jones)...for all the star wars enthusiast. Although not specifically catered only for them.

Exploring what other concepts. He tells us that He has to punish us. He literally begs us to@come back to Him. We say, “meh, no. I want to explore other concepts so that You will suffer because I continually reject You and I will suffer because You have to be just.”

Lol

but what if this true God isn't Jesus or the three deities?

Ok finally caught up

Yeah but we can't understand God completely.

How?

I kid u not. James earl jones... it'll be like vader reading the bible.

Your preacher was either not telling you the truth or maybe you misheard. God puts everything that we will need in order to believe in the Bible. God tells us quite clearly that there are things He hasn’t put in the Bible.

well, then there's no free will at all. he doesn't want us to think for ourselves. he doesn't even want us to consider perhaps there are a greater power to him/the three deities

Kind of incredible

@isoboto there is only one God

you're christians (or whatever your religion is) and thus you believe the one true god is the jesus/god/the three deities. but someone from another religion will think differently (ie. THEIR religion's god).

Free will doesn’t rely on what God wants if He chooses to let us do what we choose. If your parents tell you not to do something and they are thinking of your benefit, but you decided to do it anyways. You hurt them. You will hurt yourself. But you still had the free will to do it

They didn’t interfere because that’s what you chose

oops. maybe it's the latter one then. must be my mistake in understanding his words

https://www.pray.com/series/james-earl-jones-reads-the-bible/

Honestly some pastors also say the wrong things

because that's what you're groomed to believe. i think there is a Creator. I don't know if it's jesus or christian god necessarily

Vader (james earl jones). 👆 👆

Well, you may not believe this but the prophecies made in the Bible have come true actually. They are coming true even now. That said, you probably won’t believe me until you begin to believe, but it is happening

Other religions cannot say the same thing

Lol I see

very true. i haven't think about it that way

well. churches and schools are the first place they attack to change people's thinking and/or behaviour. so no doubt pastors can be manipulators as well

True, other religions don't make sense for me at least

I wouldn’t use the word manipulators for all these instances of mistaken pastors. Some were genuinely misinformed

they have schools for pastors now, not "chosen by god" pastors. and still, churches had always been politicized. everybody seems to invoke the bible to defend their stance. idk about misinformed, but certainly there are no one "true" way of thinking and perceiving god

This isn’t true, the only way Christians should interpret God is as He is written in the Bible

The fact is though that far too many people divide themselves even in that regard

well. again, it comes down to "interpretation" right? geographic differences AND language differences meant we don't necessarily converge in our interpretation

What it mostly comes down to here is how you read the Bible. I know people in several other language who agree with me. It also matters how MUCH you read the Bible

true. but many claims they read the bible many, many times and each time they are more entrenched in their belief

It does rely somewhat on interpretation too